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Cyrus Elahi case, Transcript of Proceedings
db ORJG•iN 4L DB UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA x DARIUSH ELAHI, as next-of-kin and representative of the Estate of Cyrus Elahi, deceased : Docket No. 1:99CV02802 Plaintiff, FILED NOV 092000 THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN, us D stCICtC0 t and THE IRANIAN MINISTRY OF GI0 :tfco umbIa INFORMATION AND SECURITY, VOLUME I Defendant. x Washington, D.C. November 8, 2000 9:40 a.m. TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS BEFORE THE HONORABLE JOYCE HENS GREEN UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE APPEARANCES: For the Plaintiff: PHILIP HIRSCHKOP, ESQ. MARIANNE MERRITT, ESQ. JONATHAN MOON, ESQ. Court Reporter: DOLORES A. BYERS, CSR Miller Reporting Co., Inc. 507 C Street, N.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666 MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 Street, S.E. AA000084 ‘ Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-66G6
db 2 INDEX Direct Cross Redirect Recross WITNESSES FOR THE PLAINTIFF Kenneth Roger Timmerman 8 Ladan Boroumand 68 Jacques Boedels 106 Dariush Elahi 149 Jerome S. Paige 176 MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-666G
db 3 1 PROCEEDINGS 2 THE COURT: This is a default judgment and the 3 record will show that a default was granted by the clerk of 4 the court and we are in a position to move in the 5 evidentiary hearing that we scheduled sometime ago notice of 6 which, I believe, Mr. Hirschkop, you have tendered to the 7 Defendant in the interest of justice? 8 MR. HIRSCNKOP: Yes. The appropriate mailing was 9 made with the appropriate translation that we filed the 10 return receipt with the Court, Your Honor. 11 THE COURT: Ready to proceed with interest. 12 MR. HIRSCHKOP: If Your Honor please, just some 13 administrative things. Mr. Mook had an emergency. So he 14 will be here fairly soon. No problem now beginning without 15 him. I'd like the Court's permission for Beth Wish who is a 16 paralegal in my office who has handled a lot of documents to 17 remain at counsel table if that's all right. 18 THE COURT: That's fine. 19 MR. HIRSCHKOP: I'd also like to introduce to the 20 Court Dariush Elahi who is the executor of the estate. Dr. 21 Elahi is right here. 22 THE COURT: Good morning. 23 MR. HIRSCHKOP: He's an endocrinologist at Harvard 24 and is visiting us from Boston. I also here Jacques 25 Boedels. Mr. Boedels is an advocate from Paris and is also MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. h Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 4 1 representative of the estate, legal representative. He is 2 here from Paris. 3 If at some point if he wanted to be at counsel 4 table, would that be all right, Your Honor? 5 THE COURT: Of course. 6 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Thank you. 7 If Your Honor please, we'd like permission of the 8 Court to amend the addendum or leave at this time to amend 9 the addendum to $50 million. It's set at 20 million. We 10 have, in viewing the other opinions of the courts, seen how 11 they've handle damages on this. And in the course of 12 gathering evidence in a very short time period realize there 13 is much more to it than we had originally pled. 14 THE COURT: It does come at a very late stage. I 15 will allow you to amend it. This doesn't necessarily mean 16 you will receive it or any portion of it. We will have to 17 wait and see what we hear. But I will allow you to amend 18 it. 19 MR. HIRSCHKOP: If Your Honor please, we have 20 filed with the clerk an exhibit list and a. witness list and 21 sent a copy up for Your Honor and a copy to the court 22 reporter. We would ask rather than moving the complaint in 23 evidence that the Court take cognizance of the complaint in 24 this matter. Since it is a default, the complaint is taken 25 as admitted or the facts are admitted. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (2O2 54 -
db 5 1 We still must show evidence satisfactory to the 2 Court as the standard. No one knows really what that is. 3 The cases say we can file affidavits. The cases say that we 4 can't just say here is the complaint and sit down. 5 THE COURT: Exactly. As long as you appreciate 6 that you can't just say that and sit down and that you are 7 going to prove whatever the points are that you believe are 8 essential to making your case and that will be satisfying to 9 the Court, I have no objection to it coming it. But it 10 can't stand on its own. Just so that the record is 11 abundantly clear in that regard. 12 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Indeed. So, Your Honor, 13 therefore, where we're going -- I think we'll save time by 14 just telling you to begin with. We have trimmed this to 15 seven witnesses from what we first filed. We will put out 16 four or five today and probably not take all day tomorrow. 17 We are cognizant of the schedule but have not 18 sacrificed anything in doing that. We also have prepared 19 two sets of documents. One is the originals to be filed 20 with the Court. We will put them on the witness stand with 21 the witnesses based on my discussion. We have a set for the 22 court here. There are 106 exhibits. 23 Many of them are newspaper articles which you will 24 see the purpose of them as we go long. A number of them are 25 large reports of the French court and prosecutions there. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6656
db 6 1 Some are from a German court and prosecutions there. 2 THE COURT: Are they there with translations? 3 MR. HIRSCHKOP: They are all translated, Your 4 Honor. To be doubly safe we had the originals -- even where 5 the translations are just excerpts, we put the full original 6 behind it in the book so the record will be complete. We 7 will show two videotapes, one today and one tomorrow 8 morning. We have provided in the exhibits a translation of 9 each videotape. 10 Would you want us to leave the video with the 11 Court also? We have made extra copies if you want that. 12 THE COURT: Yes. 13 MR. HIRSCHKOP: With this copy I'm providing to 14 Your Honor there are many, like, the Global Terrorism 15 Reports of the United States State Department but we really 16 are only referring to one paragraph out of several pages. 17 If Your Honor would like, ours is highlighted. I didn't 18 highlight yours. I didn't want to be presumptuous and do it 19 in advance. We could take these back sometime today and 20 just mark them up and save someone a lot of work. 21 THE COURT: The answer is yes. I would like it 22 highlighted while I'm required to really read everything 23 that is tendered to me. I obviously give the greatest 24 scrutiny to that which counsel is asking me to focus on. 25 So, yes, I would appreciate it if you will highlight it MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (2n2
db 7 1 because sometimes within a volume there is one paragraph 2 that counsel wishes me to look at. I always ask this in 3 every case. 4 MR. HIRSCHKOP: I will just pass these up to you 5 now. 6 THE COURT: Thank you. 7 MR. HIRSCHKOP: I'm not going to make an opening 8 statement of any length, Your Honor. The pleadings are 9 self-evident. The proof conforms very much to the 10 pleadings. There is very little different what is not in 11 the pleadings perhaps. There is a lot of the personal 12 details of the life of Dariush Elahi but you will hear that 13 and expect that coming. 14 So in the interest of the judicial economy, I will 15 call Kenneth Timmerman to the stand. 16 THE COURT: Fine. Mr. Timmerman. 17 MR. HIRSCHKOP: He may have stepped out. He was 18 here one moment ago. 19 THE COURT: We'll wait a moment if you believe 20 this is more coherent to have him first. But if he doesn't 21 come, then we'll move to the next one. 22 MR. HIRSCHKOP: The next one isn't here yet. 23 THE COURT: Then we'll move to the third one. 24 MR. HIRSCHKOP: He is an expert. He publishes an 25 Iran newsletter and he gives you the structure of what we'll MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 8 2. be talking about. 2 THE COURT: He is Mr. Timmerman. I'm just reading 3 he is an investigative journalist and founder of the 4 Foundation for Democracy in Iran. 5 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Yes. He was a newspaper reporter 6 for a number of years in Western Europe. He speaks Farsi. 7 He speaks French. 8 THE COURT: He didn't get lost in our fire drill, 9 did he? 10 MR. HIRSCHKOP: No. He was here. 11 THE COURT: All right. We'll take a moment. 12 (Pause.) 13 KENNETH ROGERS TIMMERMAN, PLAINTIFF WITNESS, SWORN 14 MR. HIRSCHKOP: May I approach the witness, Your 15 Honor? 16 THE COURT: You may, sir, and you may continue to 17 do so as appropriate. 18 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Thank you. 19 DIRECT EXAMINATION 20 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 21 Q State your full name, please. 22 A Kenneth Rogers Timmerman. 23 Q Would you briefly give the Court your background? 24 A I'm a professional reporter and I've lived and 25 worked for 18 years in Europe and the Middle East between MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 9 1 1982 and 1993 as a reporter. 2 I spent many -- much of that time investigating 3 Iranian state terrorism, the assassination, of dissidents 4 overseas. 5 I have written on that in Newsweek Magazine, in 6 Time Magazine. I've worked also for ABC news, for CBS news 7 and a variety of publications around the world. I came back 8 here in the United States in 1993 to work as a professional 9 staff member at the House Foreign Affairs Committee because 10 of my expertise in the'Middle East and also in area of arms 11 control which I've written on extensively.. 12 After leaving the House, I've gone back to my work 13 as a reporter and I continue to do that today. 14 Q What degrees do you hold? 15 A I have a bachelor's degree in liberal arts and a 16 master's degree in liberal arts from Brown University. 17 Q At any time while you were abroad were you ever a 18 hostage yourself? 19 A Yes, I was. I was -- in fact, I'began my 20 journalist career in the Middle East in an underground cell 21 in Beirut in 1982. I was taken hostage by Arafat's faction 22 of the PLO. This was during the most intense period of the 23 Israeli bombings of Beirut in July of 1982. 24 I was in an underground room for three and a half 25 weeks which was about 16 feet by 20 feet square. No light, MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 10 1 one candle a day, no ventilation, no fresh air, no water, no 2 food to speak of and constant bombardments from the air, 3 from the sea and from land. 4 When I went into that building it was an eight 5 story building. When I got out it was one floor and a half 6 and pancakes on top. 7 Q How many hostages were there with you? 8 A In the room where I was, that 16 by 20 foot room, 9 there were about 16 people. 10 Q What nationalitywere these hostages? 11 A Besides myself, I was the only American. There 12 was one French person who was brought in and out of the room 13 with me. But the majority were either Serians, Egyptians, 14 Lebanese or Palestinians. 15 Q You have been a reporter for USA Today and at 16 Atlanta Constitution. When you worked for those papers or 17 those publications, what area did you cover? 18 A I covered primarily the Middle East and I went 19 back and forth between France and Beirut. I went back to 20 Beirut after being released by the grace of God and covered 21 Arafat's PLO again. 22 THE COURT: How shortly thereafter did you go 23 back? 24 THE WITNESS: I went back to the Middle East in 25 late 1982 and I went specifically at that point to the West MILLER REPORTING coMPANy, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 11 1 Bank which is aPalestinian area. It was then under Israeli 2 occupation. I felt very strongly that I did not want to let 3 my experience as a hostage color my reporting or my ability 4 to see the facts on the ground. 5 I spent about two months on the ground living with 6 Palestinians in the West Bank under Israeli occupation. I 7 came out of that experience with a view that there are no 8 sides in the Middle East conflict who have an entirely clear 9 or pristine record and that ones needs to be very careful 10 and also attentive to human beings and individuals before 11 judging what is going on. 12 BY MR. HIRSCHK0P: 13 Q Just so we're clear when you say there are no 14 sides or the pristine record, one of the exhibits I'll put 15 before you is a chart you have prepared of assassinations. 16 You're not saying those people -- 17 A I'm referring specifically to what's called the 18 Arab Israeli conflict, the Arab side the Palestinian side 19 and the Israeli side. 20 Q I noticed you've worked for Newsweek. You've been 21 a contributor to the Wall Street Journal, to ABC news, to 60 22 Minutes. You've worked for Time Magazine. All of those, 23 was your specialty in reporting on Mideast affairs? 24 A Yes. 25 Q Do you publish something called the Iran MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 12 1 Newsletter. 2 A The Iran Brief. Yes, sir. 3 Q How long have you published that? 4 A I launched that shortly after leaving Time 5 Magazine in December of 1994. It was a monthly 6 investigative newsletter. 7 Q And how does that differ from the Middle East 8 Defense Newsletter? 9 A Middle East Defense News was a predecessor which I 10 published after leaving Newsweek in 1987 and I left Newsweek 11 because there was simply no room -- I was in Paris at the 12 time. There was no room for all of the information I had on 13 the Middle East and Middle East arms deals. So I set up my 14 own investigative newsletter. 15 Q Have you published any books? 16 A I've published four books. The first one on the 17 Iran-Iraq conflict, on arm sales to Iran and Iraq called 18 “Fanning the Flames.” It was syndicated by the New York 19 Times, published in several languages. 20 Then a book which I wrote in French on Soviet high 21 tech espionage which is the other half of my journalistic 22 career is looking at intelligence and high tech espio 'hage. 23 A third book came out from Halt Nif land in 1991 24 called “The Death Lobby, How the West Armed Iraq.” And it 25 was the story of western arm sales to Iraq. How we built up MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-G6gg
db 13 1 Saddam Hussein's war machine. And then the most recent book 2 is a book on U.S. policy and communist China. 3 Q With regard to Middle Eastern matters, have you 4 published articles in both Le Monde and the Express, the 5 Paris newspapers? 6 A Yes. While I was working out of France, I 7 traveled frequently to Iraq as a reporter, published front 8 page stories in Le Monde on, particularly on how Iraqis were 9 using French weaponry or failing to use it. I also 10 published cover stories for the French news weekly, LEX 11 PRESS (phonetic) which is roughly the equivalent of Time 12 Magazine here and also their competitor LA PRA (phonetic), 13 the newsweek of France. 14 Q In the past years in addition to publishing your 15 newsletter, the brief, the Iran Brief, how have you stayed 16 current of affairs concerning the Republic of Iran? 17 A Well, one of the things that I feel very strongly 18 about and it came out of my experience as a hostage in 19 Lebanon, I think freedom is an important guiding principle 20 in my life and it's something, I think, that America has -- 21 it is one of the most important things about America and 22 it's what attracts people to us around the world. 23 I established in 1995 with two Iranian friends and 24 two American friends, former administration officials, a 25 nonprofit foundation called the Foundation for Democracy in MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 14 1 Iran here. And we began with a grant from the National 2 Endowment for Democracy which is a nongovernmental agency 3 but funded by the United States Congress. And it is funded 4 in particular to promote democracy overseas. 5 THE COURT: What is it called again? 6 THE WITNESS: It's called National Endowment for 7 Democracy. 8 They fund projects in Burma. They fund projects 9 in China, around the world to promote democracy. And in the 10 beginning they funded my foundation. We were doing human 11 rights monitoring and democracy development, trying to. It 12 was a very difficult thing to do. 13 THE COURT: Mr. Hirschkop, just so I'm certain. 14 We are getting daily copy, aren't we? 15 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Yes, Your Honor. 16 THE COURT: Wonderful. Then I don't have to take 17 notes and I can really focus on -- 18 MR. HIRSCHKOP: I apologize. In my list of 19 administrative things to tell you I forgot. 20 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 21 Q So you stay current on Iranian matters? 22 A Yes, I do. 23 Q Are you knowledge of Iranian terrorist activities 24 over the last 20 years? 25 A Yeah. I've spent a lot of time studying that and MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (2o2 54 c—cfc c
db 15 1 investigating that. Yes, sir. 2 MR. HIRSCHKOP: If Your Honor please, another 3 administrative matter. The 106 exhibits, rather than move 4 each one in, I don't think it's any necessity to move an 5 exhibit in in this type of hearing. It's whatever is 6 satisfactory to you. 7 I will just submit all the exhibits. But in the 8 course the next two days we will identify and show the 9 relevance of each and where it came from. 10 THE COURT: And at the end of the day today you 11 will take them back and highlight for me. 12 MR. HIRSCHKOP: We will even grab them at noon and 13 get it done quicker. 14 THE COURT: With pleasure. 15 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Thank you, Your Honor. Exhibit 16 18, Your Honor, is -- 17 THE COURT: But I do like it when you call the 18 exhibits to my attention as we go so I can take a quick 19 perusal. 20 MR. HIRSCHKOP: I'm sorry. Exhibit 97 is his 21 resume and I just identified it. 22 THE COURT: That's fine. Go right ahead. 23 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 24 Q I'd you to, if you would, turn to Exhibit 29 in 25 the books that you have there. Can you tell me what Exhibit MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 54G-6G
db 16 1 29 is, sir? 2 A This is a compilation of Iranian government 3 terrorist attacks against dissidents which I have put 4 together based on accounts in the press, also from court 5 cases around the world. I have been very careful because 6 there are many such lists like this floating around. Some 7 of them credible and some of them not. 8 I have been very careful in compiling this list to 9 be sure that there is a clear chain of evidence leading back 10 to Iranian government involvement and responsibility for the 11 terrorist attack. 12 THE COURT: Could you give me some background very 13 briefly as to how you decide which one should be included in 14 the list and which one doesn't have enough background and 15 information to satisfy you that it should be? 16 THE WITNESS: Yes, Your Honor. 17 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Perhaps I can assist Your Honor 18 with that. I was going to ask him questions about the 19 structure leading up to the list. 20 THE COURT: Fine. 21 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 22 Q Now with regard to the list, does this include all 23 of the assassinations in the country of Iran? 24 A No, it does not. 25 Q Does it include all assassinations in Iraq and MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 17 1 Turkey. 2 A No, it does not. 3 Q Okay. So the Court may understand, keep the list. 4 We're not going to talk about it for a moment. But let's go 5 to the general structure of the terrorist activities. Who 6 is in charge of the Iranian government? 7 A At the head of the Iranian government is the 8 supreme leader who is a religious figure. Ayatollah 9 Khomeini today. He took over from Khamanei whose name, I'm 10 sure, is familiar to the. Court. Beneath him there are 11 elected officials. 12 There is a president of the Republic and then 13 there is a cabinet as we have and many other countries have. 14 But ultimate authority for everything is with the supreme 15 religious leader. He has the ability to veto laws. He has 16 the ability to -- he has his own private budget. He has a 17 series of parastatal foundations which he can use to promote 18 his own activities whether it's religious activities or his 19 operations overseas. 20 Q And Ayatollah Khomeini left Paris when the 21 revolution first occurred in 1979; is that correct? 22 A That's correct. Ayatollah Khomeini who overthrow 23 the Shah left Paris where he was sheltered. 24 Q And is that the time when our embassy was seized 25 in Teheran? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (2n2
db 18 1 A The embassy was seized. After he arrived back in 2 early February of 1979 the embassy was seized on my 3 birthday, November 4th, 1979. 4 Q Now immediately before the Ayatollah Khomeini 5 having come back to head, up the revolution, had the 6 revolution actually taken power before his arrival? 7 A Yes. The Shah had left in early January of 1979 8 and they were pretty much in control. But there was a key 9 event and it took place right after Khomeini came back. 10 There was a key event, which was the night of, February 11 to 11 12, there interim government in power still lead by Shahpour 12 Bakhtiar, the last prime minister appointed by the Shah. 13 And Khomeini's forces led by the People's 14 Mojahedin of Iran at that time that was allied with the 15 revolution and there is reason to believe some of the 16 radical Palestinian groups, as a military spearhead, in the 17 night of February 11 to 12 they carried out a military coup 18 d'etat. They seized the air base in Teheran and air bases 19 around the country and basically scattered the last of the 20 military forces that were still loyal to the Shah and to the 21 Bakhtiar government. 22 And on the morning of February 12th it was all 23 over. And that military coup, that was the end of the 24 interim government. Shahpour Bakhtiar went into hiding and 25 then there was a price put on his head. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 19 1 Q We are going to talk about Mr. Bakhtiar a lot in 2 the next two days. How long was he prime minister for? 3 A Thirty days. 4 Q Was that an interim government to try and 5 establish a republic? 6 A Shahpour Bakhtiar had been a historic leader of 7 the nationalist movement in Iran. He had been an opponent 8 of the Shah. By appointing him in late December 1978 it was 9 the Shah's last effort, basically, to keep power and to keep 10 the government from falling. 11 Q And after the Ayatollahs took over control of the 12 country, did a pattern of terrorism start around the world. 13 of assassinating dissidents to the Iranian regime? 14 A That began almost immediately as well as an effort 15 to export the revolution. This was the term that they used 16 very early on. Ayatollah Khomeini wanted to export the 17 Islamic revolution around the world. He launched a number 18 of subversive attacks against neighboring governments 19 including an assassination attempt on the Amir of Kuwait and 20 began to assassinate dissidents, potential opposition 21 leaders overseas. 22 Q Let's deal with just that first year or two, say, 23 1980. Was there an assassination right here in Bethesda of 24 an Iranian official? 25 A Yes. It was Au Tabatabaj who had been an MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-GGGG
db 20 1 official in the Iranian embassy under the Shah. 2 Q Was a well-known official among embassadorial 3 circles here in Washington? 4 A Yes. He was the spokesman. He was the point man 5 for the embassy. Yes. 6 Q Was he considered an opponent to the Khomeini 7 regime? 8 A He was a very vocal opponent to the Khomeini 9 regime after the takeover. 10 Q In that same period had Mr. Bakhtiar moved to 11 Paris and established a dissident organization there? 12 A In which period, sir? 13 Q In the 1980 period. 14 A In 1980, yes. But it was later on in the year. 15 Yes. 16 Q And was there a serious attempt on his life in 17 France? 18 A Yes. In fact, he was really the first big named 19 target that they went after. He was living at that point in 20 an apartment in the suburbs of Paris and the Iranian 21 government sent a hit team to kill him. They did not 22 succeed. 23 They wound up killing the French woman who lived 24 next door and I believe a policeman, if my memory is 25 correct. The French police did capture the hit man who MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 21 1 turned out to be a Lebanese Christian who had converted to 2 Islam and then became one of the faithful of Ayatollah 3 Khomeini. His name was Anise Nacosh (phonetic) 4 Q We will get to it later. But was, in fact, Mr. 5 Bakhtiar successfully murdered some ten years later? 6 A Yes, indeed. 7 Q After the Khomeini regime took over, did a series 8 of groups grow up outside of Iran and get established 9 outside of Iran seeking to overthrow the Khomeini or 10 democratize or make a Republic of Iran again? 11 A Yes. That's correct. 12 Q Let's go through so the Court can understand who 13 they were. First, let's start with Mr. Bakhtiar's group. 14 What was their political philosophy? 15 A Mr. Bakhtiar was a nationalist. He grew up in 16 opposition to the Shah in the fifties, the sixties, the 17 seventies. He was a well respected figure in Iran. He, as 18 I mentioned earlier, when the Shah appointed him he thought 19 this was really his last best chance of maintaining power, 20 of maintaining some semblance of order in Iran. 21 And, of course, when that failed, Mr. Bakhtiar had 22 to go into hiding. The importance of Bakhtiar is that his 23 brand of Persian nationalism was directly at odds with the 24 clerics who believed not in Persian nationalism but that 25 their power came directly from God. And they did not have MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, s.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 22 1 to obey any temporal hierarchy or temporal authority. 2 At the very beginning of the revolution they saw 3 the nationalist movement of Mr. Bakhtiar as a very major, 4 very strong opponent that had to be defeated. 5 Q His organization was NAIVIIR, N-A-M-I-R? 6 A Yes. We call it the national -- 7 Q Resistance movement? 8 A Yeah. It's in French. Yes. The movement -- the 9 Iranian resistance. 10 Q I don'.t know about the Court but my French is very 11 minimal. So I'll just avoid it if I can. 12 Now with regard to Bakhtiar, did he have a deputy 13 Mr. Boroumand? 14 A Yes, he did. 15 Q And the second witness will be Mr. Boroumand's 16 daughter, Ladan Boroumand. 17 Was Mr. Boroumand also executed in Paris? 18 A Yes, he was. 19 Q Did they represent the leadership of the national 20 resistance movement? 21 A Mr. Boroumand who I knew personally, as I also 22 knew Mr. Bakhtiar personally, Mr. Boroumand was the treasury 23 of the movement and he was Mr. Bakhtiar's right-hand man. 24 Q I'm going to get to individual assassinations a 25 little later on. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6665
db 23 1 A Okay. 2 Q But the national resistance movement was a major 3 dissident movement outside of Iran against Iran; is that 4 correct? 5 A Mr. Bakhtiar's movement was one of the major 6 movements against the Islamic Republic. 7 Q Was there also a movement the Flag of Freedom 8 Organization? 9 A Yes, there was. 10 Q What do you know, of.. that? 11 A The Flag of Freedom Organization was headed by Dr. 1.2 Ganji who -- 13 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Just for the Court Dr. Manouchehr 14 Ganji. Dr. Ganji, could you rise. 15 Thank you, sir. 16 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 17 Q Could you tell the Court, do you recall, what Mr. 18 Ganji's position was in the Iranian government prior to the 19 revolution? 20 A Mr. Ganji had been minister of higher education. 21 He had been one of those people in the entourage of the 22 leadership in Iran under the Shah who was trying to convince 23 the Shah through his wife that changes were necessary if 24 they didn't want the country to explode and the regime to 25 collapse. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6GG
db 24 1 Q Had he, in fact, liberalized education as to women 2 and dress as to women and the admission of women into 3 education in Iran? 4 A The situation of women in Iran progressed by leaps 5 and bounds in the 1970s, in the final years of the Shah. 6 There was a woman head of the customs service. There were 7 women professors who worked in the universities. Dr. Ganji 8 had female assistants. All of that was setback greatly 9 after the Islamic revolution. 10 Q Do you recallDr. Cyrus Elahi, the victim in this 1.1 case, that this case principally about, was Dr. Ganji's 12 deputy, when he was minister of education? 13 A That's correct. 14 Q Now the Flag of Freedom Organization, was that 15 located in Paris also as was NANIR? 16 A Dr. Ganji was primarily based in Paris. But the 17 Flag of Freedom Organization like Mr. Bakhtiar's group had 18 people inside Iran. They had networks inside Iran, 19 resistance networks. They had resistance networks in 20 Turkey. Turkey which is neighboring Iran has a very large 21 Persian speaking community and is frequently used as a 22 penetration point where you can get people. inside the 23 country, infiltration point. 24 Q Did they participate in circulating millions of 25 fliers inside Iran, printed material? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 35 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 25 1 A Yes. 2 Q Did they have a radio program set up in Egypt that 3 broadcast like Radio Free Europe and Radio Free America into 4 Iran from Egypt? 5 A Yes, they did. And that was a very important 6 effort and it was something that the regime in Iran was very 7 upset about. They tried to, and I think successfully from 8 what I've understood, they tried to scramble, to jam the 9 broadcasts. 10 Q Are you, familiar that when the revolution first 11 occurred a list of 200 people were posted around the mosques 12 in Iran to be murdered? 13 A Yes. 14 Q And are you familiar that Dr. Ganji and Dr. Elahi 15 were both on that list? 16 A That is my understanding. Yes, sir. 17 Q Are you familiar with whether or not a Fatwa was 18 issued for Dr. Gangi after the revolution took over? 19 A I became aware of the Fatwa, first, from Dr. 20 Ganji, himself, in Paris and later through the French 21 investigating magistrate whose name was Jean- Louis 22 Bruguiere. It's B-R-IJ-G-I-E-R-E. Mr. Bruguiere who I 23 interviewed many times as a reporter. And we had a tendency 24 to pick each other's brains from time to time and he spoke 25 about the Fatwa against Dr. Ganji and against a number of MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-666
db 26 1 other people, Dr. Elahi as well and a number of other 2 opposition leaders. 3 Q Turn to Exhibit 105, please. 4 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Your Honor, just so you're clear. 5 Dr. Ganji will identify this later as the official Fatwa 6 issued against him by the Iranian regime. 7 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 8 Q Looking at the language of the Fatwa, is that the 9 language that it used when they issue a Fatwa? 10 The keywords are initalics at the bottom of that 11 English translation. This man is an apostate and corrupt. 12 The Iranian regime liked to use the notion of hypostasy for 13 going after people and they would call those -- its 14 opponents corruption on earth. 15 Q Just so the record is clear, what is a Fatwa? 16 A A Fatwa is a religious edict issued by a religious 17 leader authorizing a faithful Muslim to commit murder in 18 this case. 19 Q In fact, it's a direction that the object of Fatwa 20 was to be murdered by any Muslim that can pull it off? 21 A Yes. Whereas murder is against the tenants of 22 Islam as a religion, the Fatwa is then required by faithful 23 Muslims to absolve them, if you wish, from what would 24 otherwise be a crime. 25 THE COURT: Excuse me. It says within this MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gt1 Street, s.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-66G6
db 27 1 document, Plaintiff's Exhibit 105, that it's strictly 2 confidential, urgent and yet it was placed in all of the 3 mosques? 4 MR. HIRSCHKOP: If I may explain that since I 5 asked that question. There was a list prior to this Fatwa 6 of 200 dissidents that were published in all the mosques 7 immediately when the revolution began. And Dr. Ganji will 8 testify about how they escaped on mule back through northern 9 Iran. 10 - THE COURT: My question is whether this entire 11 document was published or just the names of the individuals 12 who were the subject of the Fatwa? 13 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Let me see if the witness knows 14 that. 15 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 16 Q Have you ever seen a written Fatwa like this 17 before? 18 A Well, actually, I have seen the Persian copy of 19 this because Judge Bruguiere showed it to me in France years 20 ago. 21 Q It's a attached -- 22 A To answer your question, Your Honor, the list was 23 really an arrest list. It was, you know, like ten most 24 wanted. Well, this was the 200 most wanted criminals and 25 friends of the Shah, cronies of the Shah. That was posted MILLER REPORTING coMpANy, INC. 735 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-66E
db 28 1 every where to help inform the citizenry to arrest these 2 people. 3 The Fatwa was something else and that was not 4 published to my understanding. It was not published and it 5 was obtained through intelligence sources and I believe that 6 the French intelligence service was in particular 7 instrumental in obtaining this. 8 Q In fact, once a Fatwa is accomplished the document 9 dictating it is destroyed in Iran, is it not? 10 - A That I don't know., 11 Q We have other witness on that. 12 And in addition to Dr. Ganji and Mr. Elahi, were 13 there not Fatwas on a number of other people including Mr. 14 Boroumand and Mr. Bakhtiar? 15 A Yes. It is my understanding that this type of 16 murder could not be carried out unless there was a Fatwa 17 authorizing it. 18 Q We've digressed from the resistance organizations. 19 But just so I can clear up something you said when we raised 20 it, Mr. Bruguiere. In France when there is a criminal 21 offense the supreme court appoints a judge as an 22 investigating magistrate; is that correct? 23 A Can I cut to the chase and explain exactly how 24 this works? 25 Q I will have Mr. Boedels do it in detail. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 29 1 A He will do it in detail. But basically what the 2 French has got is a separate section of their court which is 3 called the 14th section of the court which is specifically 4 -- which specifically focuses on terrorism cases. And they 5 set this up, I believe, in the early 1980s because of the 6 important number of terrorism cases. 7 And the investigating magistrates would carry out 8 the functions of a grand jury. And then they would present 9 the evidence to the court and then the prosecutor would 10 actually prosecute based on that evidence. 11 Q In Paris there were three magistrates who were 12 famous for doing these terrorist investigations; is that 13 correct? 14 A I knew two of them personally very well. 15 Q And Mr. Bruguiere is the most senior of these; is 16 that correct? 17 A Yes. 18 Q He heads the investigation of the Elahi murder? 19 A That is correct. 20 Q And he headed the Boroumand investigation? 21 A Correct. 22 Q And the Bakhtiar investigation? 23 A Yes, sir. 24 Q Okay. We'll come back to Mr. Bruguiere. 25 Let's go back to these dissident groups. In MILLER REPORTIt' G COMPANY, INC. 735 8 ” Street, s.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 30 1 addition to the Flag of Freedom Organization and the NAMIR, 2 the national resistance movement, there is also the 3 democratic Kurdish party, the ]JKPI or KDPI. 4 A The KDPI. 5 Q What is that? 6 A The KDPI, the Kurdish democratic party of Iran, it 7 began as a successionist movement for Kurds in Iran. There 8 is very large minority of Kurds and they go across borders. 9 The Kurdish areas of Iran abut the Kurdish areas in Iraq and 10 there is a part of Turkey in there as we1l . . 11 So for the past 70 years there has been a Kurdish 12 independence movement that cuts across all three of those 13 countries and they have been trying to unite and succeed 14 from the different countries. Obviously they have not been 15 successful. 16 The KDPI in Iran, early on in the revolution, the 17 Islamic revolution, they realized that they were not going 18 to succeed with this effort to pull out of Iran and they 19 became an important force if only because of the numbers of 20 Kurds -- the millions and millions of Kurds -- within the 21 opposition against the Islamic Republic. And they were 22 rallying support for a secular form of government, a secular 23 democracy. 24 Q And were there numerous assassinations of leaders 25 and higher officials of the Kurdish democratic party? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, SE. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 31 1 A Yes, sir. And I knew several of those who were 2 assassinated personally? 3 Q Again, I'll get to the individual ones later so 4 the Court can get them in sequence. Where was the KDPI 5 headquarters located? 6 A That's a very good question. I met with KDPI 7 leaders in Paris. I met with them in other cities in 8 Europe. They were able to travel around Europe. But they 9 also came and went into northern Iraq and northern Iran. So 10 the borders were porous and the regime was not always in 11 full control. 12 THE COURT: Mobile headquarters? 13 THE WITNESS: Yes, ma'am. 14 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 15 Q You mentioned the Kurdish populous in northern 16 Iran and northern Iraq and southern Turkey. Was there a 17 very large Iranian population in the Turkey in the Istanbul 18 area? 19 A Approximately one million Iranians live in 20 Istanbul out of a population of several million, about 25 21 percent of the city. 22 Q When did Ayatollah Khomeini die? 23 A In 1988. 24 Q And upon the death of Ayatollah Khomeini who took 25 over for him? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 32 1 A After it was Ayatollah Khamanei. 2 Q Who is Mr. Rafsanjani? 3 A Rafsanjani is a well-known figure here in America 4 because he was mentioned in Iran contra. He was a 5 right-hand man to Ayatollah Khomeini. He is a minor cleric. 6 He comes from a big trading family, a very wealthy trading 7 family. They own pistachio farms in the eastern part of 8 Iran, very wealthy. 9 And he has become filthy wealthy since being in 10 power. For the first period of the Islamic Republic he was 11 the speaker of the parliament. Then in 1989 he ran for 12 president and was elected and was elected to a second term 13 in 1993. Today he heads a thing called the expediency 14 council which would be very complicated to go into and I'm 15 not sure that we need to for the purpose of this. 16 Q And I'm mainly concerned about this period from 17 the late eighties through the early nineties. 18 A The period of the late eighties into the early 19 nineties he was the president of the Islamic Republic of 20 Iran. 21 Q Who is Mr. Fallahian during that period? 22 A Mr. Fallahian was the head of the ministry of 23 information and security, was the official title MOIS in 24 English which is their intelligence apparatus. 25 Q And in some of the cases did Mr. Bruguiere MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 33 1 actually have witnesses who identified Mr. Fallahian as 2 giving the order to assassinate people in Paris and other 3 placed in the world? 4 A Yes, sir. 5 Q In fact, there is a warrant issued for him by a 6 German prosecutor in a German court from Berlin in the 7 Mykonos killing? 8 A Yes, there was. 9 Q And just so the Court is clear because we're going 10 to refer to it a number of times. what was the Mykonos 11 killing in 1992? 12 A The Mykonos, the name comes from the Mykonos 13 restaurant which was a Greek restaurant where the second 14 Kurdish leader in three years to be killed by the regime was 15 gunned down in cold blood by a hit team from Teheran. His 16 name was Sharaf-Kindi. 17 Q And were three people assassinate with him? 18 A Three other people were assassinated with him. 19 Q Has that warrant ever been executed against Mr. 20 Fallahian? 21 A No, it was not. If I could add just for a second, 22 Your Honor. Judge Bruguiere has also implicated Mr. 23 Fallahian in a number of the terrorism cases in France. 24 Q Judge Bruguiere also found that Mr. Fallahian got 25 his authority for a number of assassinations directly from MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 34 1 Rafsanjani; right? 2 A Yes. 3 Q Now you've identified three of the major dissident 4 groups -- the NANIR, the FF0 and the Kurdish democratic S party. What is the National Council of Resistance and how 6 does it relate to the Mojahedin? 7 A The National Council of Resistance is supposed to 8 be an umbrella organization of four or 500 different groups 9 that is dedicated to freedom and democracy in Iran. In 10 . fact, it is a fiction, which is..dominated by. one group. called. 11 the People's Mojahedin of Iran. And I can say this with 12 authority because the state department has said this on the 13 record. My own investigations -- 14 THE COURT: Our state department? 15 THE WITNESS: Our state department, yes, Your 16 Honor, has said this on the record. As a congressional 17 staffer, I had quite a bit of correspondence back and forth 18 with the state department on this as well. 19 There is really no doubt in my mind that the 20 People's Mojahedin of Iran are the same thing as the 21 National Council of Resistance. The People's Mojahedin of 22 Iran are considered to be a terrorist group by our state 23 department even though they are opposed to the regime in 24 Teheran. I think I can explain this to you very simply in 25 about two sentences because sometimes we get lost with all MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-666E
db 35 1 these different groups. 2 When Khomeini overthrow the Shah, he was allied 3 with the Mojahedin who was anti-American, anti-imperalist. 4 They were a Marxist group. The Shah called them Islamic 5 Marxists. And I think that was probably a very accurate way 6 of depicting them. 7 They were part of the revolution that overthrow 8 the Shah in 1979, 1978, 1979. But they were seeking total 9 power. They engaged in a power struggle with Khomeini. 10 Theyhadcells all across the country. It came. to a head in 11 June 1981 when they had a massive demonstration in Teheran. 12 Khomeini basically opened fired, drove them out of the 13 government and drove them underground and began to round up 14 Mojahedin militants, put them in jail, tortured them and 15 killed them. 16 So they were part of the regime until they had a 17 power struggle. They lost the power struggle. They went 18 into opposition. 19 I used to use as an image for this -- the head of 20 the Mojahedin is a man named Rajavi and you will hear his 21 name later on because one of the people assassinated by the 22 regime is his brother named Rajavi. 23 Rajavi and Khomeini were like two heads of a coin. 24 They were both working to together for the same goal which 25 was to get rid of the Shah. They had a power struggle, a MILLER REPORTING coMpaNy, INC 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 36 1 falling out and now Rajavi and the Mojahedin is in 2 opposition. 3 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 4 Q They did, in fact, try to assassinate Rajavi 5 himself, did they not? 6 A I do not know specific attempts but they certainly 7 succeeded in assassinating his brother. 8 Q And his brother had been what relationship to Iran 9 prior to the revolution? 10 A The brother of Rajavi? 11 Q Yes. 12 A I cannot testify to that. 13 Q Did he have a relationship to the U.N. at some 14 point? 15 A Well, he was working at the U.N. in Geneva for the 16 Mojahedin after the revolution. He was their sort of 17 spokesman at the U.N. to deal with human rights questions 18 and things like that. 19 Q In addition to those groups, there is one other 20 group I'll ask you about. The National Liberation Army of 21 Iran, what is that? 22 A The NLA, the National Liberation Army was the 23 military wing of the Mojahedin. They are based in Iraq. 24 They are armed and equipped by the regime of Saddam Hussein. 25 They have been there since the mid—1980s. Their goal is a MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S. . Washington, D.C. 20003 (202i
db 37 1 military assault on Iran to force a change of government. 2 They have conducted one major attack in April of 3 1988 in the last days of the Iran-Iraq war. They crossed 4 the border. They said we're going to march to Teheran. 5 They marched about, I don't know, 50 or 100 miles inside the 6 border and every mother, child, grandfather came with cycles 7 to drive them back because they were more terrified -- the 8 Iranian people were more terrified of these people than they 9 were even of the -- it was quite extraordinary. 10 Q Ha e..therebeennumerousassassinatjonsof people 1.1 in this group and the Mojahedin group in Iraq? 12 A Yes. 13 Q And you've said before there were numerous 14 assassinations in Turkey of the community there. Was there 15 a fear by the regime in Iran after the death of Ayatollah 16 Khomeini that there might be an overthrow from the outside 17 of the regime? 18 A I think the real fear was that the opposition 19 living in exile would, first of all, be able to coalesce 20 around a single leader. And so it was important for the 21 regime to get rid of the leaders and any leaders in 22 particular who had charisma, who were able to unify other 23 groups. And they were afraid that those opposition groups 24 in exile would then have their links inside Iran and be able 25 to stir things up and to gain momentum. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 9 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 38 1 Q Is this just your surmise of what you've read or, 2 in fact, are there documents showing this fairly clearly? 3 A Well, Counselor, this is my opinion. And it is 4 based on many years of investigating the specific 5 assassination campaigns, of working with investigative 6 magistrates such as Mr. Bruguiere in France, Judge SHAT-LA 7 (phonetic) in Switzerland and others. There is a pattern 8 here. 9 The regime always goes after the leaders. Why do 10 they go after the leaders of the opposition? They.go after 11 the leaders of the opposition because they are afraid that 12 one of those leaders will emerge and manager to successfully 13 unite the various opposition groups. 14 Q Were there also many assassinations in Iran of 15 leaders of the education, writers, people like that all 16 through these 20 years? 17 A Yes. And that, by the way -- this is kind of 18 interesting. In the past two years under a so-called 19 moderate president the repression inside Iran has picked up. 20 And they have gone after writers, intellectuals as well as 21 political -- the remaining political leaders. 22 There is one remaining political leader of the 23 opposition in Iran. His name was Darioush Forouhar. He had 24 been, early on in the regime, he had been a minister of 25 labor up until 1981 and then he broke with the regime and MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 39 1 went into opposition. They tolerated him but they would not 2 let him speak out. 3 He was murdered in November of 1998 brutally in 4 his home in Teheran with his wife. Both of them were 5 sexually mutilated. And the regime has now admitted that 6 their own intelligence ministry carried out this murder. 7 There was rogue elements within the intelligence ministry, 8 of course. 9 It is an important event because he was beginning 10 tQ gain international notoriety, Mr.. Forouhar . I can tell ii you that my organization in the United States, the 12 Foundation for Democracy in Iran, and others were beginning 13 to broadcast his statements. He was being noticed and he 14 was gaining a foothold inside Iran and they were afraid of 15 that. And that was a pattern, again, part of this pattern 16 to decapitate the opposition so the opposition could not 17 move against them. 18 Q I neglected to ask you before but have you 19 qualified as an expert in other courts testifying on matters 20 concerning Iran? 21 A Yes, I have, Counselor. 22 Q And have you testified at the Congress on matters 23 concecning Iran? 24 A Several times. 25 MR. HIRSCHKOP: I don't know if it's necessary to MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 40 1 tender him as an expert. I don't think it's needed in this 2 type of a case. 3 THE COURT: You do whatever you wish, Mr. 4 Hirschkop. 5 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Thank you, Your Honor. 6 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 7 Q Getting back to the Court's question with all this 8 background of how you compiled this list. What selection 9 did you use in this list? And this is Exhibit 29. 10 A We're back to the list of the victims? 11 Q The assassination. Yes, sir. 12 A Basically I used several criteria. I wanted to 13 make sure that the individual assassinated, that there were 14 multiple sources, both public source information and from 15 some of the opposition groups. I took the opposition 16 groups' list with great care because sometimes this group or 17 that group might exaggerate the evidence. It might falsify 18 the evidence. 19 I started with their list. I looked for public 20 source information. What really clinched it was when I was 21 able to get testimony from either a judge or a court case on 22 the record. Now I eliminated a lot of names from this list. 23 My list is smaller than many of the other lists. 24 THE COURT: Did you always find the testimony of 25 the judge credible? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 41 1 THE WITNESS: Well, Your Honor, do you see the 2 volumes of documents here on this table? Jacques Boedels 3 will testify later, I'm sure, in the volumes that was 4 presented in the French courts. I have dealt with judges in 5 France and in Switzerland and investigative magistrates in 6 Turkey as well on this. 7 Frankly, there is no doubt of the evidence of an 8 Iranian government assassination effort. The only thing 9 that defies the imagination, defies understanding is how 10 they have gotten away with it fqrso long. 11 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 12 Q I pointed you to five major dissident groups. 13 They represent all the major dissident groups outside of 14 Iran, do they not? 15 A The Kurds, NANIR, FF0 and the Mojahedin and the 16 monarchist. You forgot the monarchist, the CMO, the 17 constitutional monarchist. 18 Q Has Iran successfully murdered practically every 19 major leader of these groups except for Dr. Ganji who is 20 sitting here in court today? 21 A Well, I'd like to say I lost three notches on my 22 belt in Beirut. I don't know how many notches on Dr. 23 Ganji's belt have been lost in Paris evading killers from 24 the regime. I know of several attempts against Dr. Ganji's 25 life. And I am sure he will tell you about the MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 42 1 extraordinary precautions he has had to take to protect 2 himself. 3 Q And from your knowledge dealing with Mr. Bruguiere 4 and Mr. Bakhtiar and Mr. Boroumand, was there extreme 5 security surrounding both Dr. Bakhtiar and Dr. Ganji and 6 other leaders of each movement? 7 A Yes, sir. Because it was very clear to the French 8 authorities that the Iranian government was going to go 9 after these leaders. They knew it. And so they tried to 10 protect them .ae best, 11 Q And when you say protect, they were given French 12 body guards? 13 A Oh, yes. 14 Q I mean, had armored cars? These people have lived 15 in armored compounds? 16 A Mr. Bakhtiar was assassinated in a protected 17 compound. There were French riot police outside at all the 18 time. They guarded the entry. They took everybody's 19 identification. You had to phone in ahead of time and be 20 approved by Mr. Bakhtiar to come into his residence. I went 21 there on several occasions. And I can tell you it was not 22 an easy thing to get in. 23 The same with Mr. Ganji and other leaders. They 24 had French police protection because they were at risk. 25 THE COURT: Has your life been threatened? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 ” Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 43 1 THE WITNESS: I was told by the French equivalent 2 of the FBI in 1992 that I should reframe from parking my car 3 on the street and I should look underneath it every morning 4 before I went out. 5 THE COURT: And yet here you are testifying. 6 THE WITNESS: By the grace of God. 7 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 8 Q You claim you knew Mr. Bruguiere, Judge Bruguiere. 9 Did you ever receive any documents from him concerning Mr. 10 Bakhtiar's murder? 11 A Counselor, as a reporter, I would rather not 12 answer whether I have received documents from a judge. 13 Q Okay. 14 Did you ever go to Turkey -- 15 THE COURT: Let the record be clear you're 16 speaking about someone else other than the judge who is 17 seated here. 18 MR. HIRSCHKOP: I will withdraw the question. 19 BY MR. HIR5CHKOP: 20 Q Did you ever go to Turkey to investigate the 21 assassination of Mr. Bakhtiar? 22 A Yes, I did. 23 Q What did that consist of, if you can tell us? 24 A Among the people that I met in Turkey was a 25 gentleman named Necdet Menzir. N-E-C-D-E-T, first name, MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 44 1 Menzir, M-E--N-Z-I-R, who is the head of police intelligence 2 in the city of Istanbul, Istanbul being the largest city in 3 Turkey and also being the most violent city, criminal 4 elements but also this large Iranian population. 5 Mr. Menzir had decided for his own reasons that he 6 wanted to cooperate with my journalist investigation. I 7 went there as a reporter for Times Magazine heading up a new 8 investigative journalism unit. He showed me telephone 9 records that they had had -- they had traced the telephone 10 calls from the back-up Learn of the Bakhtiar assassination. 11 They used a safe house in Istanbul. He had the 12 telephone calls coming in from various public phone booths 13 in France which he had been given by the French judge. So 14 he then traced them back to the safe house in Istanbul. He 15 showed me also videotape of confessions of Turkish Islamists 16 who had been paid and trained by the Islamic Republic to 17 kill Turkish secular intellectuals in Turkey on the orders 18 of the Islamic Republic. 19 This is off of our subject but it's also kind of 20 interesting. The Iranians saw Turkey as a secular 21 democracy, as a threat in the same way as they saw the 22 secular politicians as a threat to their clerical regime. 23 So they tried to -- they assassinated a number of Turkish 24 secular leaders as well. He gave me access to a lot of 25 documents from the investigate. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 45 Q And in various countries where these assassinations occurred was the embassy or consulate officials of Iran implicated very often in these things? A In almost every case that I can think of the consulate or the embassy was directly involved providing safe houses, providing cars, providing money, providing passports, providing escape routes in some cases. Q And in the Ghassemlou murder were the consulate officials directly involved in the murder? There were Iranian officials d r ci.ly inyolved and consulate officials involved as well, yes, in protecting one of the murderers in the Ghassemlou murder in Vienna which was another one of these that I investigated extensively. THE COURT: What period of time? THE WITNESS: This is in 1989, Your Honor. I'll just answer your question very briefly for the sake of time. BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: Q I'm going to go through a number of individual assassinations and we will get to that. A Okay. But very briefly, one of the murderers -- and I say that we know that he was one of the murderers. The Austrian police know that he was of the murderers was sheltered for months in the Iranian embassy in Vienna. Q Is it correct that murders are accomplished MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
db 46 1 through several different organizations stemming from Iran 2 support? 3 A Yes. That's correct. It is not just the 4 intelligence ministry. They have many other organizations. 5 In fact, they use -- one of the things Judge Bruguiere found 6 out they used the entire apparatus of the state. 7 In the Bakhtiar murder one of the key offices used 8 was in the telecommunications ministry back in Teheran. 9 Another one was the Iranian state television, the 10 broadcasting service. So they used the entire apparatus of 11 the state to support their goal of assassinating, 12 decapitating the opposition. 13 Q Are you familiar with the cases that have recently 14 been won here in Washington, D.C., under the Anti-Terrorist 15 Act, the Anderson case and the Higgins case and the Flato 16 case and the Sasippio case and some of the others? 17 A Yes, I am. 18 Q All those were carried out by terrorist 19 organizations that are supported by Iran; is that correct? 20 A That's correct. 21 Q This is the first case where it's directly 22 attributable to MOIS who gave the order kill Dr. Elahi? 23 A In the United States this is the first case to my 24 knowledge. Yes, sir. 25 THE COURT: Did you testify in any of those other MILLER REPORTflTG COMPANY, n ic. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 47 1 cases here in this courthouse? 2 THE WITNESS: No, I did not, ma'am. 3 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Dr. Patrick Clawson who has been a 4 witness in most of them will be testifying tomorrow morning, 5 Your Honor. 6 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 7 Q Now let's talk about those groups briefly so the 8 Court can realize how terrorism is sent abroad by the 9 country, the Republic of Iran. 10 With regard to Helbollah, what is that? 11 A Helbollah is a Lebanese Shiite organization which 12 was established specifically by the Iranian government in 13 1983 and 1984 to resist the Israeli occupation of southern 14 Lebanon. By the way, one of the Iranian government figures 15 who was key to setting up Helbollah was a minor figure at 16 the time named Hatami who is now the president of the 17 Islamic Republic. He is said to be a great moderate. 18 Q What is Hamas? 19 A Hamas is the Islamic resistance. The acronym in 20 Arabic means Islamic resistance. They operate primarily in 21 Gaza and the West Bank. They are a Palestinian group. They 22 are an out growth really of the Muslim brotherhood which has 23 a long history in Egypt and that area. They, also, are 24 dedicated to killing any hopes of peace between Arabs and 25 Israelis, any co-existence between Arabs and Israelis and MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 48 1 they are funded and trained by the Islamic Republic of Iran. 2 Q As is Helbollah? 3 A As is Helbollah. 4 Q The other major group, the Islamic Jihad, what is 5 that? 6 A It's a Palestinian Islamic Jihad, PIJ. It's a 7 small splinter group that began as part of Hamas and then 8 became a separate splinter group, more radical yet they have 9 -- Hamas has a certain popular support in Gaza. And, again, 10 I've seen this personally on the ground in Gaza. I've 11 interviewed one of their suicide bombers two days before he 12 blew himself up. That's another extraordinary story. 13 PIJ has really no popular basis. It's a very tiny 14 group. They receive their only support from the Islamic 15 Republic of Iran. Whereas Hamas has some popular support 16 and funding that comes from the United States and from 17 Muslims of the United States who believe that they're 18 helping social causes in Gaza. 19 Q Now I'm finally going to get to your chart, 20 Exhibit 29. The murders here, the assassinations here, are 21 these principally MOIS-sponsored and carried out 22 assassinations? 23 A It is my belief that the vast majority of these, 24 if not all of them, are sponsored and carried out by the 25 MOIS. Yes. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-GGGG
db 49 1 Q The list you have here really differs from the 2 victims we've seen before this Court previously in these 3 other cases which are all victims of Helbollah, or Hamas or 4 the Jihad? 5 A That's correct. This is a list of assassination 6 victims not just victims of terrorism. 7 Q You mentioned Mr. Tabatabai. What exactly was his 8 position? 9 A He was No. 2 at the embassy and press spokesman 10 and, again, was very vocal in the opposition after the 11 revolution. 12 Q Was an American citizen, an ex—soldier recruited 13 by Iran to murder Mr. Tabatabai? 14 A Yes. He has confessed to it. David Belfield. 15 Q Have you viewed the 20/20 confession, the program 16 20/20? 17 A I saw a transcript of it when it came out. Yes, 18 sir. 19 THE COURT: Wasn't there a trial in the Superior 20 Court of the District of Columbia concerning this case? 21 THE WITNESS: Yes, there was, Your Honor. And to 22 my recollection he was convicted in absentia. 23 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Your Honor, at this time we'd like 24 to show the video. 25 THE COURT: All right. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 50 1 (A videotape was shown.) 2 THE COURT: We are going to take a five-minute 3 recess at this time. 4 (Recess.) 5 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 6 Q Mr. Timmerman, Tabatabal, you heard the murderer 7 testify or was asked about it being cold-blooded. Describe 8 the Bakhtiar killing to the Court? 9 A When the murderers entered Mr. Bakhtiar's house, 10 first, they apparently stunned him by a blow to the throat. 11 At that point they went into the kitchen and got several 12 kitchen knives and stabbed him repeatedly. 13 I forget whether it's 30, 40 or 50 separate times, 14 so violently that one of the knives actually broke. 15 THE COURT: Are you reporting this, sir, from the 16 advantage point of having been told this or by the 17 investigation that ensued as a result of that? I take it 18 you weren't present? 19 THE WITNESS: No, Your Honor. This is from the 20 investigating magistrate and from the autopsy. 21 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 22 Q Was there, in fact, a trial and seven or eight 23 people convicted of the murder of Mr. Bakhtiar? 24 A Yes. That's correct. 25 THE COURT: Did you attend the trial? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street., S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 51 1 TI-lB WITNESS: I did not attend the trial but I did 2 talk to the investigative magistrate many, many times about 3 this. 4 In addition to the very brutal knife attacks, they 5 sexually mutilated Mr. Bakhtiar in a way which I won't 6 describe to the Court but in a very brutal manner which has 7 been repeated in murder after murder after murder. 8 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 9 Q In these MOIS-sponsored murders? 10 A Yes. In these MOIS-sponsored murders. 11 Q Was his head severed? 12 A His head was severed and he was sexually 13 mutilated. 14 Q With regard to these murders, is there a history 15 of very cold-blooded action in a spectrum of these murders? 16 A I mentioned earlier Mr. Forouhar who was murdered 17 with his wife. He was the opposition -- the last remaining 18 opposition leader inside Iran at that time. He also was 19 sexually mutilated. His wife was sexually mutilated as well 20 and they were repeatedly stabbed and left in their 21 apartment. 22 Q Referring to Exhibit 29, in 1980 they murdered Mr. 23 Tabatabai and they attempted to murder Bakhtiar. Let's go 24 to the period right after Ayatollah Khomeini died. Let's 25 look at 1989, Mr. Rajavi's murder in Vienna. You mentioned MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 52 1 Rajavi. Which group was he with? 2 A He was with the People's Mojahedin of Iran and 3 he's the brother of their leader. 4 Q Who they tried to assassinate? 5 A Yes. 6 Q Mr. Rajavi himself was the U.N. representative for 7 that group for some time, was he not. 8 A Yes. He was their U.N. representative. 9 Q With regard to that murder did they directly 10 attribute it to MOIS agents and were able to name them and 11 show how they got passports and everything? 12 A Yes. When I spoke to the Swiss investigating 13 magistrate Judge Chatelain. That's C-H-A-T-E-L-A-I-N. He 14 showed me the passenger lists which they had taken from the 15 Iran air flight that left for Teheran from Geneva just hours 16 after the murder. 17 And they had identified something, like, nine 18 people on that one aircraft and ultimately identified 19 thirteen individuals by name who had taken part either in 20 the actual physical assassination -- this was a man who was 21 driving on the streets. A car swerved in front of him to 22 block him. Another one came up from behind. The murderers 23 came out from the cars. 24 First, they sprayed him with machine gun bullets 25 and then they gave him the coup de grace, I think, three or MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 ' Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6656
db 53 1 four times. 2 These thirteen people that they identified were 3 involved either directly in the murder. They were involved 4 in procuring the automobiles that were used, the weapons 5 that were used. All of them arrived in Switzerland on 6 what's called service passports, just like our red 7 passports. They're government passports. Their passports 8 had been issued in a series and had all been freshly issued. 9 They were government passports. And these people 10 went back to Teheran either directly on that Iran air flight 11 or via Austria via Vienna. 12 Q As a reporter, you've interviewed a number of 13 these victims prior to that death, have you not? 14 A That's correct. 15 Q And many of them knew there was a sentence of 16 death upon them from Iran as Mr. Elahi knew that for 11 17 years there was a sentence of death on him. How did they 18 deal with the fear of the terror? What did they express? 19 A These are very brave people. These are people who 20 have lived with the knowledge that they could be killed any 21 time, with the knowledge that they have enemies who are 22 powerful and determined. And yet they woke up every morning 23 with that knowledge and they made it through the days and 24 they performed what I think are heroic acts of resistance. 25 Q But it placed great emotional strain on them, did MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 54 1 it not? 2 A It certainly did. Yes. 3 Q And did it place a lot of curtailment on their 4 lives, the why they can go to restaurants or go to public 5 places or meet with people? 6 A Well, let's just take the case of Mr. Bakhtiar. 7 Mr. Bakhtiar did not go to restaurants. Mr. Bakhtiar did 8 not go to meet people. He stayed in his small villa in a 9 suburb of Paris guarded by French riot police. 10 Dr. Ganji would sometimes go to restaurants with 11 three or four armed guards. I remember many times when we 12 would go to eat lunch together. He would never tell me 13 where we were going. We would meet at some area at the last 14 minute and then go some place else and there would be three 15 or four armed guards who would book a separate table and 16 there were a lot of security precautions. 17 Q Let's go back to your list, page 5 of your list. 18 Shortly before -- let me start with that. Let's start at 19 the top of Page 5. The murder in Dubai of Colonel Attaollah 20 Bay-Ahmad. Excuse me if I don't get the names pronounced 21 correctly. Sometimes it's a little foreign to me. 22 The Flag of Freedom Organization, was he, in fact, 23 one of the leaders of Flag of Freedom? 24 A Yes. He was an emissary of Dr. Ganji who my 25 understanding was sent to meet with people inside Iran who MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 9 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
7 db 55 1 were helping their organization. 2 Q In Dubai he was murdered by a direct employee of 3 MOIS, was he not? 4 A Yes. That is my understanding. 5 Q And he worked closely with Mr. Elahi in Paris? 6 A Yes. Again, Dr. Elahi was really Dr. Ganji's 7 right-hand man and so they together made the decision to 8 send him to Dubai is my understanding? 9 Q His murder received some publicity, did it not? 10 A Some publicity, yes, but not that much. 11 Q But it was clearly known by Dr. Elahi and the Flag 12 of Freedom people? 13 A It was definitely. It sent a shock wave through 14 the organization. These murders, when I say only limited 15 publicity, they don't reach the American press. They don't 16 meet our sensibilities but they send a shiver through the 17 Iranian community. Iranians understand exactly what is 18 going on when they see a prominent dissident leader who is 19 gunned down by a machine, in this case a machine pistol with 20 a silencer on it in Dubai. Dubai is, again, one of those 21 ports sort of like Turkey. It's one of those ports of entry 22 into Iran. 23 Q Look at the next one on July 13, 1989, Abdel 24 Rahman Ghassemlou. Who was Mr. Ghassemlou? 25 A Mr. Ghassemlou was a Kurdish leader. He was a MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 56 1 polyglot, a bon vivant. I got to know Mr. Ghassemlou in 2 Paris before his murder. And he was somebody who believed 3 that there was a future for Iran as a democratic social -- 4 secular -- excuse me. 5 Q Was he the secretary general of the KDPI? 6 A Yes. He was the secretary general of the KDPI. 7 Q Would that be the director in charge of KDPI? 8 A He was the top man and it was his charisma which 9 made his organization prominent. 10 - QAnd, again, did the authorities of Vienna d irectly 11 trace this to Iranians who came there from Iran with 12 passports and directly back to MOIS? 13 A This is a similar method of operation. The 14 Iranians sent officials to Vienna assassinate him. They 15 came in on service passports. I learned that from some of 16 the prosecutors who were involved in the case in Vienna. 17 They've identified the individuals and in the case of one of 18 the murderers he took refuge in the Iranian embassy for 19 months and months and months and finally the Austrian 20 government caved and let him go. 21 Q The next page, Page 6 on April 24, 1990, that's 22 Mr. Radjavi concerning, as we spoke, of the Mojahedin; is 23 that correct? 24 A That's correct. 25 Q So in that one year period, that several month MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 k Street, SE. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 57 1 period they killed three major leaders of three of the four 2 resistance groups outside of Teheran? 3 A Yes. 1989, 1990, ‘91, ‘92. These were very, very 4 active times for the Iranian government hit squads. 5 Q And then in 1990, October 23, 1990, they killed 6 Cyrus Elahi and you said he was deputy director of FF0, the 7 Flag of Freedom; is that correct? 8 A That's correct. 9 Q And after that in April ‘91 they killed Abdel 10 Rahrnan Boroumand and he v s eputyo 11 A That is correct. He was Mr. Bakhtiar's deputy. 12 Q And shortly after him, they kill Mr. Bakhtiar on 13 the top of Page 7? 14 A Uh-huh. 15 Q Then in 1992 they killed Mr. Sharaf-Kindi -- 16 A Also the successor to Mr. Ghassemlou as their 17 secretary general at the Kurdish democratic party. 18 Q So by this point, in this two-year period they had 19 assassinated either the leader or the second-in charge of 20 every major resistance group outside of Iran? 21 A Yes. With one exception of the Constitutional 22 Monarchist and they were going after them. And I know that 23 from personal experience as well. 24 Q And in all these cases the prosecutors, the local 25 authorities found Iran directly responsible, did they not? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 58 1 A That's correct. 2 Q In fact, in the Elahi case, Mr. Mashadi, the 3 person who arranged the murder, was convicted of conspiracy 4 to murder both Dr. Elahi and Dr. Ganji, was he not? 5 A That's correct. 6 Q He received a seven-year sentence in the French 7 courts? 8 A That's correct. 9 Q And you mentioned that in Bakhtiar there were 10 several people convicted of murder also. 11 In Mykonos, the Mykonos restaurant in Berlin in 12 1992, were they also convicted of murders there? 13 A Yes, they were. And the ties were directly linked 14 back to the MOIS, to the Iranian government. And, as you 15 mentioned earlier, there was an arrest warrant, an 16 international arrest warrant for the head of Iranian 17 intelligence. 18 Q Now did these murders continue beyond 1992? 19 A Yes. They continue to. 20 Q Turning to 1996, was Mr. Mazlouman murdered? 21 A Reza Maziouman, he was a writer and a, my 22 understanding, as a monarchist he was murdered in Paris in a 23 very similar circumstance to Mr. Bakhtiar. In other words, 24 a friend introduced the murderer into his apartment to allay 25 suspicions. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 59 1 Q You may have misspoken. Look at the bottom of 2 Page 10. He was a major official of Flag of Freedom 3 Organization, was he not, Mr. Maziouman? 4 A He was affiliated with the FF0. I do not know his 5 specific -- 6 Q Well, Dr. Ganji -- 7 A Dr. Ganji will do better to tell you that. 8 Q During this same period, throughout this whole 9 period there was a Fatwa pending against Solomon Rusdi 10 (phonetic), was there not? 11 A That is correct. 12 Q Who is Solomon Rusdi (phonetic)?. 13 A Solomon Rusdi (phonetic) is the author of Satanic 14 Verses. It was a novel which aroused the eyer of Ayatollah 15 Khomeini. He claimed that it defamed Islam and he put a 16 price on his Solomon Rusdi's (phonetic) head of about $2 17 million and issued a very public Fatwa in this case. It was 18 a very public Fatwa authorizing Muslims around the world to 19 kill Solomon Rusdi (phonetic) 20 Q And that Fatwa is still -- 21 A The Fatwa appears to be still in effect. My own 22 Islamic cleric friends would have told me that they believed 23 that the Fatwas die with the death of the issuing cleric, in 24 this case Khomeini, but the Iranian government has 25 reaffirmed the Fatwa and the foundation which reports to the MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 54G-6666
db 60 1 government has reaffirmed the Fatwa and upped the bounty to 2 more than $2 million. 3 Q Mr. Solomon Rusdi (phonetic) now resides in the 4 United States, remains under the threat even today of murder 5 by the Iranian government? 6 A That's correct. 7 Q And the state department has in their reports 8 declared it to be a state sponsoring terrorism; is that 9 correct? 10 _ That'scorrect.Andthathas sp.eciticallylegal 11 ramifications. 12 Q And are they still on the state department 13 declaration a state sponsoring terrorism? 14 A Yes. The government of Iran is still considered a 15 state sponsor of terrorism. 16 Q With regard to the Flag of Freedom Organization, 17 were you able to determine from your investigation over the 18 years that it, in fact, was an organization sponsored and 19 supported in many ways by the United States Government? 20 A My understanding is that the Flag of Freedom 21 Organization did have very close ties to the U.S. 22 Government. And Dr. Ganji would come to the United States 23 frequently. He certainly was working in cooperation with 24 certain elements of our government and establishing the 25 transmitter that he used in Cairo, in Egypt. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-G6E
db 61 1 Q And what the Flag of Freedom Organization did 2 directly aided our policy towards Iran, did it not? 3 A Again, my understanding, and this is not from the 4 court cases, but from my understanding and interviews with 5 U.S. intelligence officials and others, the United States 6 Government considered the Flag of Freedom Organization as 7 one way of continuing to put pressure on the regime in 8 Teheran by broadcasting their newspaper reports into Iran to 9 de—stabilize the government. 10 THE COURT: Why p _i_n 1igence agents 11 speak so freely to you about these situations? What was the 12 eventual goal or purpose? 13 THE WITNESS: To be frank -- this one I can be 14 much more clearer about. At a certain time, and if my 15 memory is correct, it was 1995 or so. The CIA cut the 16 funding for the radio broadcasts and that became an issue in 17 Congress. And I was no longer working in Congress at that 18 time. I was working as a reporter but I had many friends 19 who were still working in Congress. This became an issue. 20 And there were many members of Congress and the 21 senate who argued that we should not have cut the funding to 22 the Flag of Freedom Organization because they were 23 performing outstanding work on behalf of America. And in 24 addition to the work as Iranian freedom fighters they were 25 also furthering the interests of the United States in Iran. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 62 1 And so that's how I got access to that is that 2 there was a debate. There was a semi-public debate on this 3 in 1995. 4 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 5 Q In the record in this matter we've put in Exhibits 6 No. 89 through 95. They are copies of the Iran -- I guess 7 through 96 -- published by you; is that correct? 8 A Which numbers? 9 Q Eighty-nine is the first one. 10 } Q RT Do yQu hav eby1inesin these cases? 11 Sometimes they're without. 12 THE WITNESS: The Iran Brief, I did not publish as 13 a byline because I was the publisher of the newsletter. 14 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 15 Q But during this same period you've been a 16 contributing writer to many national publications, have you 17 not? 18 A That's correct. 19 Q With regard to these several documents, 89 through 20 96, these are published by either the Iran Brief? 21 A 89 is published by me, the Iran Brief. 90 is an 22 action memorandum from the Foundation for Democracy in Iran 23 of which I am the executive director. 24 Q And you published that also? 25 A Yes, I did. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 63 1 And the others are, indeed, from the Iran Brief 2 for which I am responsible. 3 Q Without going through them individually, they in 4 ways capitulate what you've said here, the testimony as the 5 assassinations and the responsibility you mentioned, Mr. 6 Fallahian directly as being responsible, for instance, in 7 Exhibit No. 90 in the third paragraph? 8 A Yes, sir. These articles that you have -- the 9 articles that you have included which I wrote directly 10 treats the subject that we're discussing today which is the 11 Iranian government involvement in these assassinations. The 12 Maziouman assassination, the Cyrus Elahi assassination in 13 particular. 14 Q I'd ask you to look at No. 93, if you would, sir. 15 You say there the Islamic Republic has launched a major 16 effort to establish new networks of agents and sympathizers 17 in the United States to gather strategic intelligence, 18 penetrate opposition organizations and then to provide 19 logistics of possible terrorist attacks. 20 This is still ongoing, this terrorism exported by 21 Iran? 22 A Yes, it is. 23 Q It's ongoing with Helbollah and Hamas and the 24 others in the Mideast? 25 A We've seen that repeatedly just in the beginning MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 64 1 of October. President Hatami of Iran met in Teheran 2 publicly with the leaders of Helbollah, the Palestinian and 3 Islamic Jihad and llamas. And he said we've got a solution 4 for the middle east crisis and the solution is Israel should 5 cease to exist. This is on the record, recorded by voters 6 on October 2nd of this year. 7 Q In 1999 did MOIS actually admit in Iran that 8 agents of MOIS were responsible for many murders inside of 9 Iran? 10 A Yes, they did. It's J d ieserial murders 11 case and it came out of the murder of Mr. Forouhar and his 12 wife. 13 Q We covered that in Exhibit 94. 14 Now, sir, from your knowledge of Iran, have they 15 taken cognizance of these large punitive damage awards that 16 have been awarded by the courts in the United States? 17 A It's a very interesting and I think important 18 question. They have not showed up in court. They have -- 19 THE COURT: You mean they haven't shown up 20 formally in court? 21 THE WITNESS: Thank you, Your Honor. I did not 22 want to have to say that. 23 They have not shown up formally in court and 24 instead they have hoped that they would get off the hook 25 from the punitive damages through diplomatic channels and MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 65 1 diplomatic negotiations. 2 Once the new bill was passed and signed into law 3 by the President October 10th through October 15th, just 4 this past month, the Iranians turned around and within days 5 themselves ran through their parliament a similar piece of 6 legislation allowing the Iranian citizens to sue the United 7 States in Iranian courts for damages of alleged crimes that 8 America might have committed against them. 9 So not only are they paying attention, they are 10. p yi . e y c.lose attentipn an they. ar yery scared. 11 They're very worried that they're going to pay a lot of 12 money for damages. 13 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 14 Q Would continued punitive damages award have any 15 use? Would they suffice to say to the Iranians it's time to 16 stop? 17 A The Iranian economy is in a very bad straight. 18 They need that money. Large punitive damages would have a 19 chilling impact, I believe, on the regime. It would show 20 the people of Iran the culpability of this regime in these 21 brutal murders around the world. 22 Q What kind of punitive award in a case like this 23 would be necessary to catch their attention? 24 A Personally, I think that Iran has one major source 25 of income. It's oil. And if you can in some way, and I'm MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 ' Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 66 1 not an expert on this, but if you can in some tie punitive 2 damages to Iranian oil exports I think you have really got 3 their attention. 4 Q Would a billion be the minimum it would take given 5 they are already quarter billion dollar awards? 6 A Well, I think that would get their attention. 7 Yes, sir. I think more awards of the same level that 8 they've received before. They would perhaps just say, well, 9 this is one more of the group. 10 Q And you spoke about the new Act which pays, - 11 although this case is not covered by the new Act. They 12 specify just certain cases. But what would it take in 13 compensatory damages to get their attention? 14 A To get the attention of this regime you have to 15 hit them hard. You must hit them hard. They are used to 16 negotiating their way out, of sliding out or finding a 17 solution where they do not have to pay or take 18 responsibilities for their action. I believe that you have 19 to hit them very hard whether it's a billion dollars or $2 20 billion. I don't know what an exact figure would be but you 21 must hit them hard. 22 Q That's for punitive. What about these 23 compensatory now being paid by the American government? 24 They can negotiate against Haige case. There have been 25 already been 20, 30, $40 million verdicts. Should the MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 B ' Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 67 1 American courts have to necessarily keep increasing those to 2 get Iran's attention to finally stop murdering people 3 outside of Iran? 4 A The problem with the compensatory damages, as I 5 understand it, Counselor, is that the new law basically 6 restricts payment to the compensatory damages. So the 7 Iranian government thinks that, well, it's only going to be 8 up to $400 million because that is the amount that the 9 Americans have admitted is in the American FMS account, the 10 fqreig n litary sales agreement. And ey can shriigthat 11 off. 12 I think it's very important that that cap of the 13 $400 million in the FMS account be broken and that they 14 understand that there is no cap. There will not be a cap, 15 that there is not a cap on their responsibility, that they 16 must take responsibility for these murders. 17 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Thank you. Nothing further. 18 THE COURT: Thank you for your testimony. 19 (Witness excused.) 20 THE COURT: Your next witness. 21 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Your Honor, we will leave the 22 videotape shown this morning with the Court. We call Ms. 23 Boroumand to the stand, please. 24 LADAN BOROUMAND, PLAINTIFF WITNESS, SWORN 25 DIRECT EXAMINATION MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 68 1 BY MS. MERRITT: 2 Q Can you please state your name for the record? 3 A My first name is Ladan, L-A-D-A-N, and my last 4 name is Boroumand, B-O-R-O-U--M-A-N-D. 5 Q Are you a resident of Washington, D.C.? 6 A Yes. 7 Q Are you the daughter of Abdolrahman Boroumand? 8 A Yes. 9 Q And your father was assassinated in Paris in April 10 of 1981? 11 A Yes. 12 Q I'm going to get back to talking about your father 13 in a little while. Can you please let the Court know a 14 little bit about yourself. Did you grow up in Iran? 15 A Yes. I finished high school in Iran and then I 16 went to France for my higher education. And I stayed there. 17 I became political refugee and then I got naturalized. I 18 have French citizenship now. 19 Q What did you study while you were in Paris? 20 A Political sociology and history. 21 Q And you received a lower degree and a doctorate as 22 well in both? 23 A Yes. My master is in political sociology and my 24 Ph.D. in history. 25 Q What schools did you attend while you were in MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-GGGG
db 69 1 Paris? 2 A The first part of my study was at the University 3 of Nanterre, Paris Ten and then my Ph.D. studies were in 4 Ecole des Hautes Etudes en Sociales and I worked with a very 5 famous French historian. 6 Q Ms. Boroumand, will you please turn to Exhibit No. 7 98. There are two books in front of you and I'll point your 8 attention to a number of exhibits in there. 9 Ms. Boroumand, can you identify this to the Court? 10 A This is my CV. 11 Q Your resume? 12 A My resume. 13 Your Honor, I would like you to forgive me. My 14 English is not very good. 15 THE COURT: I understand you perfectly. Your 16 English is very good. 17 BY MS. MERRITT: 18 Q And as part of your studies, did you study the 19 politics of Iran? 20 A Yes. From the very beginning I was interested in 21 the political history of Iran. 22 Q In 1979 when the Islamic revolution occurred, were 23 you in Paris in school? 24 A Yes. And then I seized the opportunity to go back 25 to Iran during the revolution as an observer and researcher. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 54G-6E 6
db 70 1 Q And what did you observe while you were in Iran 2 during the revolution with respect to how it was treating 3 its citizens? 4 A Well, you know, when you are young and 5 inexperienced you have lots of ideals and the reality of a 6 revolution is quite a violent and difficult reality. 7 I went back with, not a lot of hope because 8 already in Paris things were, you know, seemed to be not 9 very promising even though I knew and I had the chance of 10 reading Ayatollah Khomeini's political writings. Solwas 11 reserved already when I went back to Iran and I was seeing 12 how the public opinion was manipulated by the revolutionary 13 elite and they were against reform and democracy. 14 But when I was there I saw the first executions 15 for the first time and I realized when they killed the first 16 people who were executed they published the pictures in the 17 newspapers. And that was the first time I could realize how 18 a new government elite is sending a message to its own 19 people saying that do not think that this is going to be a 20 democracy or you are going to have the sovereignty by 21 disposing arbitrarily of the life of the citizen and 22 violating their rights. They were sending a clear message 23 to the population that this is not going to be a free and 24 democratic country. 25 And the personal feelings was, since most of us MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-5666
db 71 1 were in favor of a change and democratization, so partially 2 or completely they were involved in the movement. It were a 3 feeling of guilt that we had accompanied to some extent a 4 movement that led to such violent and totalitarian regime. 5 Q So when you returned to Paris, you began your 6 studies of the Iranian revolution; is that correct? 7 A Yes. I was puzzled. And I wanted to understand 8 why things went wrong. And I am- still want to understand 9 why we went so wrong. 10 - QAndyou're still studying the politics of Iran at 11 this current time? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Are you writing a book right now on -- 14 A Yes. We have a research project on the political 15 history of the Iranian revolution and the Islamic Republic 16 of Iran. 17 Q Are you going to address any issues regarding 18 political violence in your -- 19 A Yes. I mean, one of the points is the interaction 20 between the government and the society and the main access 21 -- violence is the main access of this interaction. So we 22 will study violence not as something only morally bad or 23 reprehensible but also as a phenomenon that developed the 24 way of thinking that prevails in Iran. It has an 25 anthropological basis and we want to try to understand this. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 72 1 Q And you published articles on the politics in 2 Iran? 3 A Yes. 4 Q And those articles are reflected in your resume in 5 front of you? 6 A Yes. These are recent articles. 7 Q On Page 2 of your resume I would note under No. 2 8 a publication called “In Defense of Human Rights.” Is this 9 a copy of that publication? 10 A Yes Iwa part of Dr. Bakhtiar's movement and 11 this is a very long time ago and we were young. And when 12 the terror, I mean, the terror became very important in Iran 13 in the early eighties, 1981, ‘82, ‘83 as a young student and 14 young human rights activist we didn't know what to do. So 15 the main thing was to try to, again, to denounce what was 16 going on and this was a report that I supervised but it was 17 a collective work with other fellow companion in the 18 movement. 19 Q In this report there are a list of individuals 20 executed in Iran over a number of years? 21 A Yes. This is not an exhaustive list. We want it 22 to be there symbolically as a sort of homage to the victims 23 and regardless of their political background, religion and 24 ethnic background. 25 MS. MERRITT: Your Honor, we do not have a copy of MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db ‘ 73 1 this in the file. It was sort of voluminous. I didn't know 2 if Your Honor would be interested in seeing this but I'm 3 happy to make a copy of it for you it you're interested.' 4 THE COURT: You can move whatever you may wish and 5 I'll make a ruling on it. It's entirely up to you. If you 6 believe that that is important for me to consider as part of 7 this case, I will be pleased to do so. Otherwise you can 8 present me an abstract of a portion of it that you may be 9 particularly interested in. 10 MS. MERRITT: Thank you, Your Honor. 11 I would note that there are several pages that 12 detail about over 3,200 names of individuals who were 13 executed in this which just means that obviously that Ms. 14 Boroumand worked upon. 15 BY MS. MERRITT: 16 Q Ms. Boroumand, did you testify before the United 17 States Congress Human Rights Caucus on issues involving the 18 assassination of dissidents? 19 A Yes. 20 THE COURT: When was that? 21 THE WITNESS: If my memory is correct, in ‘97. 22 MS. MERRITT: We're going to get back to that, 23 Your Honor. I just wanted to lay the predicate that Ms. 24 Boroumand certainly has many years of study and experience 25 behind her on these particular issues. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 B Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 74 1 BY MS. MERRITT: 2 Q Ms. Boroumand, I'd like to turn a bit now to talk 3 about your family. Do you have any siblings? 4 A Yes. I have a sister who lives here and two 5 brothers. One is living in Paris. He's a lawyer and 6 another is living in Switzerland. He is a mechanical 7 engineer. 8 Q And this sister here in the United States, have 9 you been working her with respect to some of the 10 publications on Iran? 11 A Yes. Our new project on Iran is a common project. 12 Q Going back to Iran before the revolution and to 13 talk about your father. What did your father do in Iran? 14 A My father was a lawyer. He was in the liberal 15 opposition to the Shah's regime. And so he was not involved 16 in public affairs during this period, I mean, during his 17 life in Iran. H in the sixties when we had a small 18 democratic opening when Kennedy administration was here in 19 office he was candidate from national front political 20 formation to be elected for the parliamentary elections. 21 Unfortunately, the elections got cancelled and he 22 was arrested very little while, very well treated actually. 23 There is no common, you know, it's not comparable the way 24 this regime treats its opponents and the way the Shah's 25 dictatorship was treating its opponents. It was much milder MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 75 1 inaway. 2 He was arrested. And after three months he was 3 freed but on the condition of leaving his home town and 4 somehow he was internally exiled. He came to Teheran, the 5 capital, and he lived there. From then onward they were 6 somehow exiled from the public affairs of their country and 7 his fellow friends of the national front, some of them. But 8 he had private activities. 9 Q Your father worked closely with Mr. Bakhtiar; is 11 A Yes. They were very good friends and they're old 12 friends. 13 Q And they worked closely together for several 14 years? 15 A Bakhtiar was one of the leaders of the national, 16 result kind of national fronts and so they were like a club 17 of disillusioned democrat, keep seeing each other and hoping 18 for a better future. 19 Q And at one point Mr. Bakhtiar was appointed to the 20 Shah's government; is that right? 21 A Yes. That was when the Shah thought that he had 22 no chance and he had to, you know, he had to organize the 23 transition. So he looked in his opposition and he -- after 24 a lot of negotiation he picked Dr. Bakhtiar because he 25 thought he's a very determined and firm democrat and would MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-666G
db 76 1 not give in to the Ayatollahs. 2 Q And did your father continue to work with Mr. 3 Bakhtiar after -- 4 A Yes. He helped him closely. He was somehow his 5 personal counselor and he picked him for sensitive missions. 6 You know, the opposition at the time was a small group. 7 They knew each other. For instance, my father knew Khomeini 8 or part of this group of, quote, unquote, liberals and then 9 part of them joined Khomeini's movement. 10 ,.. So.Jie knew also sorn of... hts. *ep were. . .taking 11 the other path. So he was a very central figure for 12 negotiating. Dr. Bakhtiar sent him twice to France to 13 negotiate with Khomeini. 14 Q In fact, when Mr. Khomeini come to Teheran did 15 your father remain in Paris? 16 A My father stayed there. 17 Q So Mr. Khomeini obviously knew very well who your 18 father was? 19 A Yes. 20 Q Who he was affiliated with? 21 A Yes. 22 Q After Khomeini went become to Teheran, what did 23 your father do after that while he was in Paris? 24 A Well, he was very worried for his friend Dr. 25 Bakhtiar. And he -- we had all a very bad period because MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 77 1 after the fall of Bakhtiar's government, Bakhtiar 2 disappeared and we had rumors that he was arrested. He was 3 killed and so on. But actually he was hiding in the house 4 of a very good friend for six months. And then he was 5 provided French passport and he just let his beard grow and 6 went out of the country somehow legally with a phony 7 passport or wrong passport. 8 THE COURT: I don't know if he went out legally 9 with a phony passport but nonetheless we will continue. 10 BY MS. MERRITT: 11 Q And before the revolution did your families 12 socialize together? Did you know Mr. Bakhtiar? 13 A Yes. They were very good friends. 14 Q When Mr. Bakhtiar appeared in Paris after the 15 revolution, did he live with your family? 16 A My father provided him his own apartment in Paris. 17 But he lived in our house. 18 Q At some point was there an assassination attempt 19 against Dr. Bakhtiar? 20 A Yes. 1980, the first terrorist commando sent by 21 the regime to kill Bakhtiar actually attacked the apartment 22 which was my father's apartment. 23 Q They were obviously was not successful. Can you 24 please describe the attack to the judge? 25 A Yes. These were Palestinian commando who were MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-666G
db 78 1 sent by the regime. At the time the Palestinian gorilla was 2 in very good terms with Khomeini. Later they split. I 3 mean, Mr. Arafat and Khomeini split and had problem. 4 But at the time they sent these -- the commando 5 was led by a man named Anise Nacosh (phonetic) and he had 6 the press card of the communist daily in France. When he 7 was coming in the police who was guarding the apartment was 8 -- became suspicious. He stopped the man and wanted to ask 9 him questions and the guy shot at the police. 10 - Idon't remember if they killed one policeman and• 11 they injured very severely another one and then they got 12 near the door of the apartment. They rang the wrong door in 13 front of Bakhtiar's apartment. And a poor innocent French 14 woman opened the door and they just killed the woman. Then 15 they rang the other door and Dr. Bakhtiar's cousin was there 16 and he was very cleaver. 17 As soon as -- before opening, he put the chain. 18 And he just open a little bit the door and this commando put 19 his machine gun and start shooting. But when he shot, 20 because of the counter, the machine gun came back and the 21 cousin closed the door. And the door was a very strong 22 door. So they couldn't get in. 23 And the result was that they killed one French 24 woman and one policeman and injured another policeman. 25 Q And even in the face of this attack did your MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, SE. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 79 1 father continue his political work? 2 A Yes. I'm always puzzled by the courage -- as Mr. 3 Timmerman was mentioning, these people are extremely brave. 4 Maybe it's their tradition and also they have -- they must 5 be also the mystical culture. We have to die for the 6 beloved one and that didn't brother them. 7 Now I'm an activist but I'm quite careful for my 8 life. And if I want to give my life for my country, I 9 hesitate. For them it was a spontaneous reaction. 10 And your father worked with Dr. Bakhti.ar in NAMIR? 11 A, Yes. 12 Q Can you please describe to the Court what NAMIR 13 was? 14 A NAMIR is national movement of Iran resistance. It 15 was a political organization that aimed at the establishment 16 of democracy in Iran, the rule of law, democracy. And their 17 ultimate goal was democratic referendum through which 18 Iranian people would freely choose the kind of regime they 19 wanted. 20 Q And what was your father's position within NAMIR? 21 A My father had several different type of positions. 22 He was one of the founder of NAMIR. Then he was a member of 23 the council, the council of NAMIR which is small little 24 parliament of the organization. And for awhile he also was 25 the executive director of NAMIR. By the time of his MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 5 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 80 1 assassination he was the execute director. 2 Q Was he basically the right-hand man of Dr. 3 Bakhtiar. 4 A Kind of. Yes. 5 Q Very close confidant? 6 A Yes. 7 Q Do you know whether or not a Fatwa had ever been 8 issued against your father? 9 A Since these Fatwas are not public, I don't have 10 any evidence for that . But the day after his assassination 11 we went through the official press of Iran and they were 12 mentioning the name and the incident although they were 13 saying it was an internal liquidation. They love to say 14 this. 15 They all the time say, for instance, Dr. Bakhtiar 16 killed my father and then the friends of my father in Iran 17 went to revenge my father and killed Dr. Bakhtiar. That is 18 the official scenario the regime presents to explain the 19 killing of its opponents. 20 But in the official newspaper of the regime, when 21 they gave the news they qualified my father as a corrupter 22 on earth. And to be a corrupter on earth in Islamic cannon 23 law is to deserve death penalty. 24 If -- it means, it implies that there has been a 25 Fatwa against him. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 81 1 Q Do you understand whether Dr. Bakhtiar had a Fatwa 2 issued against him as well? 3 A I think so. 4 Q He is also a corrupter on earth? 5 A I think so. Yes. 6 Q After the assassination attempt and as your father 7 continued to work in Paris, did the police warn him about 8 his personal safety? 9 A Yes. During the eighties a few times the police 10 had warned my fatjier to bec ful. But, of course, the 11 time there were a lot of Iranian -- Paris was the center of 12 Iranian opposition. And I guess the French government 13 couldn't provide protection for all of them. 14 So the most important one had police protection 15 but the other were just warned. My father was one of those 16 who was warned and he was issued a permit to own and to 17 carry gun for awhile. 18 And then he had always the permit of owning a gun 19 at home. 20 Q And with the issuance of those permits, were they 21 very rare in Paris at that time? 22 A The French state is a very centralized and strong 23 state. So it's not like in America that citizens are 24 allowed to carry gun in their pockets. It's a very 25 exceptional permit. MILLER REPORTING coMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 82 1 Q In addition to the fact that your father obtained 2 a permit and a firearm, did he take any other precautions -- 3 A He had also -- I don't know in English. I should 4 have looked in the dictionary. The anti-bullets -- the 5 jacket. 6 Q Bullet proof vest? 7 A Yes. Bullet proof vest. 8 Q You, in fact, also obtained a permit to carry -- 9 A Yes. After his death I presented -- we had this 10 gun at home although I hate these things. But my brother 11 advised me to ask for a permit. So this gun is in my name 12 now but I even don't know where it is in the house. 13 Q So it was a concern not just about your father but 14 your entire family's safety? 15 A Maybe me. But I'm not sure. I'm not that 16 important. 17 THE COURT: Perhaps I shouldn't say this. But it 18 doesn't genuinely help your own protection by telling us and 19 the world that you don't know where the gun is. So you 20 might look today. 21 THE WITNESS: But in D.C. I don't have the permit. 22 THE COURT: Good point. 23 MS. MERRITT: Moving on away from the permit 24 issue. 25 BY MS. MERRITT: MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 83 1 Q Your father was killed in April of 1991; is that 2 correct? 3 A Yes. 4 Q I'll get into the details of that later, Mr. 5 Boroumand. But after your father was killed how long did it 6 take for the French terrorism police to get solved? 7 A Immediately. The case was almost immediately 8 referred to -- we didn't even see the, you know, the 9 ordinary criminal police. In a matter of 45 minutes the 10 special anti-terrorist criminal police was in our house. 11 Q And the regular local police were taken off the 12 case? 13 A Yes. I think they were not even given the case, 14 referred the case. 15 Q Did you talk to the terrorism police? 16 A Yes. Extensively. 17 Q And what did the police tell you? 18 A They were puzzled because my father -- Dr. Elahi 19 who was just the case preceding my father was killed with 20 guns. up until then most of the opponents were killed with 21 guns, you know, firearms. And this was the first case with 22 knife. And they couldn't understand because they said this 23 is too risky for them. They could be, you know, caught. It 24 can take no time. It can take -- it's not as easy as doing 25 it with gun from a distance. You have to be very close. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 84 1 And all these elements were to them were very 2 unusual. So they were hesitating as to what was going on. 3 But three weeks later the Japanese publisher or translater 4 of Solomon Rusdi's (phonetic) novel was killed in the same 5 circumstances. And in the time period between the death of 6 my father -- the assassination of my father and the Japanese 7 assassination the police had time to go around, you know, 8 trying to explore other explanation, family, whatever. You 9 know, they looked through everything. 10 - We became suspect for a little while which was 11 quite painful I must say. But then at the time they had 12 abandoned all other possibilities and with the Japanese 13 killing they realized that there is a new style of 14 assassinating opponent and that has also a religious 15 meaning. The knife has a religious meaning and also it's -- 16 Iran traditional culture killing with knife is more 17 insulting. 18 Q What is the religious meaning of killing with a 19 knife? 20 A It goes back to the history of the assassins. 21 They were killing with knives and has sort of a religious 22 meaning. 23 Q After your father was killed did you publish an 24 article in Le Monde newspaper? 25 A Yes. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 85 1 Q Can you please turn to Exhibit No. 26. It's in 2 the other binder I believe. 3 MS. MERRITT: Your Honor, this is one article we 4 did not have translated from the original French. But I'm 5 going to ask Ms. Boroumand to describe what she wrote in 6 this. 7 BY MS. MERRITT: 8 Q Do you have it there? 9 A Yes. I wrote this article as a victim and 10 - activist at the time because French government had changed 11 its diplomatic -- I mean, they were in the middle of 12 diplomatic issues with the Iranian regime and the president 13 in July ‘90 had a great -- pardoned the Palestinian criminal 14 who killed the two French citizens in the eighties as a 15 gesture of goodwill. 16 The result was the assassination of Dr. Elahi. 17 And after the assassination of Elahi we heard nothing from 18 the French authorities as a protest, you know, not official 19 or public but we knew that they had said nothing to their 20 Iranian counterparts. 21 So the Iranian said obviously it doesn't brother 22 them. So they went on with my father. And when my father 23 was killed I looked into the list of people who were killed 24 all during that period in two years. And I wrote that 25 article to warn French authorities and also to warn the MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 86 1 French public opinion about what was going on at the expense • 2 of Iranian exiled life. 3 Q So basically your point was that the French policy 4 ignored or didn't pay proper enough attention to the 5 assassinations that were occurring right in Paris or in 6 France? 7 A Yes. 8 Q Shortly after you published this article was Dr. 9 Bakhtiar assassinated? 10 A Yes. Dr. Bakhtiar was--that was in June and in 11 early August Dr. Bakhtiar was assassinated. So some 12 journalists had still that in mind because somehow they told 13 me that that was pathetic because I was asking if you don't 14 react we will perish one after the other with a knife in our 15 back. And this had obviously an impact on some of the 16 journalists who were working on this and then they came 17 after me after that, Dr. Bakhtiar's assassination. 18 Q Can you please describe to the Court the 19 circumstances of Dr. Bakhtiar's assassination? 20 A As Mr. Timmerman said, Dr. Bakhtiar, one of the 21 member of the movement was recruited by the regime. And he 22 told Dr. Bakhtiar that two person are coming to visit him 23 from Iran and they are very important and they don't want to 24 be seen by any body in the house. So he asked Dr. Bakhtiar 25 to choose a time for them so that the house is not crowded. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 87 1 Since he was coming and going very often to Dr. 2 Bakhtiar house, he knew his schedule. And he knew that his 3 secretary would be playing tennis at that time. So he asked 4 a very precise time when almost no one was in the house. 5 And I think Dr. Bakhtiar couldn't believe that they would 6 dare to kill him, you know, literally under the nose of the 7 police, the anti-riot police, French police and he trusted 8 him. 9 So he brought the two criminals in the house. 10 QAnd the French police, in fact, didn't find Dr. 11 Bakhtiar's body for about 36 hours? 12 A Yes. That was suspicious. What seems somehow a 13 very sad situation is that Dr. Bakhtiar was not enough aware 14 of the danger he represented for the regime. So he might 15 have been killed but what was never explained was that his 16 body was left almost 48 hours without these huge number of 17 police downstairs in the house realizing. 18 The TV was on for 36 hours. The light was never 19 turned on and the groceries stayed at the door for awhile. 20 So that was a very -- for us, I mean, we cannot explain this 21 and -- 22 THE COURT: When you say the huge number of 23 police, are you referring to his body guards? 24 THE WITNESS: Yes. Not huge but at least four or 25 five very strong policeman, heavily armored were downstairs. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th S ree , S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 88 1 BY MS. MERRITT: 2 Q Did the French police make any arrests in that 3 case? 4 A Yes. Two. They had three person suspect were 5 arrested. Two were condemned and the third one was freed. 6 Q And did you testify in the Bakhtiar trial? 7 A Yes. 8 Q And on whose behalf did you testify? 9 A The family asked me to talk, to testify. 10 Q - Arid would YOU explain to the Court how it came 11 about that the family asked you to testify? 12 A Actually I don't know exactly why they did so. 13 Probably they thought I was -- Dr. Bakhtiar liked me or they 14 thought I might well explain or I don't know. But they 15 liked me. I don't know or I was the daughter of my father 16 and they wanted me to be there. 17 Q And what did you tell the court when you 18 testified? 19 A What I wanted to explain to the court was the 20 political dimension of these killings. What I wanted to -- 21 because the French authorities wanted very much to, you 22 know, somehow to mask the political dimension of these 23 trial. And what I explained to the jury who was 24 professional -- they were all judges. 25 It's a special court and we don't have popular MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 89 I jury. I explained that there was no personal amenity 2 between the ruling people in Iran and Dr. Bakhtiar. So if 3 they killed him because they wanted to kill his ideas, what 4 he represented and that was a mere political action. And if 5 there is no reaction from -- somehow they stop democracy 6 through the body of an old man. 7 Q Ms. Boroumand, would you please turn to Exhibit 8 No. 30. This is a document entitled report on the Islamic 9 Republic's terrorism abroad. 10 Can you please explain to the Court what this 11 document is? 12 A This is a document we prepared to list and 13 document the killings of the extrajudicial execution abroad 14 of Iranian political activist aboard because we realized 15 that no one is putting all these together at the time when 16 we started. And we wanted these to be ready for the trial. 17 So when the trial of Dr. Bakhtiar was held, we 18 distributed these among the journalists so that they could 19 see that this is a trend. This is a pattern. And if there 20 is no reaction from the democratic countries, it will 21 continue. 22 Q How did you decide who should be put on this list? 23 A Whoever was political -- whoever is killing is 24 politically motivated and the regime was involved was here. 25 And in my knowledge there are not many crimes among MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 ' Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 90 1 Iranians, you know, among the Iranian community aboard. 2 This is a very highly educated, quite successful community. 3 And this is not the sort of, you know, under privileged or a 4 criminal community. 5 So almost whoever has been killed abroad has been 6 killed for political reason. 7 Q I see throughout the document you have footnoted 8 sources from which you've obtained information connecting 9 these killings to Iran. Were you very careful about that 10 - while you were preparing this report? - 11 A Yes. It's the same criteria in academic work. 12 used the same methods. 13 MS. MERRITT: Your Honor, I'd just like to point 14 out a couple of documents, quotes in this. On Page 13 of 15 this report there is a notation on the top paragraph that it 16 is, in fact, the transit from Incara of units of 17 revolutionary guards a few days before the assassination of 18 Cyrus Elahi that alerted western secret services of the 19 imminence of terrorist attempts in Europe. 20 So right before Dr. Elahi was killed they were hit 21 teams going out. 22 BY MS. MERRITT: 23 Q Ms. Boroumand, on Page 22 you have a notation of 24 Boroumand's case. And you reference an interview with the 25 prosecutor Mr. Bruguiere asserting that the cases of MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 91 1 Bakhtiar and Boroumand were inextricably connected. Was 2 that interview with you and other members of your family? 3 A Yes. 4 Q And what did Mr. Bruguiere tell you? 5 A Well, he said he personally absolutely can assure 6 that these two are linked because that was the follow-up of 7 our first meeting. We didn't have a lot of meeting with 8 Judge Bruguiere. 9 Our first meeting was, as I told you, he was 10 puzzled about the techniques used for the killing of my 11 father. And our second meeting he recognized, acknowledged 12 that, well, his doubt were not founded and now he has no 13 doubt that these killings are linked. 14 Q During the Bakhtiar trial were any statements made 15 by the government or by the court that linked your father's 16 assassination -- 17 A The indictment explicitly mentions the two cases 18 were linked because the regime knew that if they want to get 19 rid of the whole movement, if Bakhtiar were killed and my 20 father survived him, my father had enough prestige to keep 21 the movement together. So if they wanted to be very 22 efficient, they had to exterminate them both. 23 Q I'd like to draw your attention to Page 15 of this 24 report. On Page 15 there is a notation from an 25 investigative report that says according to the French MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 92 1 police, quote, for 90 percent the key to the assassination 2 of Boroumand is in Teheran. Is that consistent with what 3 Mr. Bruguiere told you? 4 A Yes. 5 Q Let me just draw your attention as well to Exhibit 6 No. 27. 7 A Yes. 8 Q Is this the report from which the 90 percent -- 9 A Yes. The investigative journalist Daniel 10 Snerberman (phonetic). 11 Q The title to that report is the killers came from 12 Iran. Before the murder of Shahpour Bakhtiar, several 13 criminal investigations had already led to Teheran? 14 A Yes. 15 Q Is there anything else in this article that you 16 would like to highlight for the Court? 17 MS. MERRITT: Again, Your Honor, this is one of 18 the documents that we didn't translate. 19 THE WITNESS: In this article Snerberman 20 (phonetic) goes back to all the killings preceding Dr. 21 Eakhtiar's killing. He mentioned Dr. Elahi. He mentioned 22 Tabatabai and the brother of Mr. Rajavi in Switzerland, the 23 cases. And he summarized the result of the investigation 24 which all point to the Iranian regime. 25 BY MS. MERRITT: MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-666G
db 93 1 Q During this entire time period to the present 2 you're still working on behalf of NAMIR, your father's 3 organization? 4 A I'm a member of the council but NAMIR has strongly 5 suffered from the loss. And I think perhaps by the -- is it 6 the time? Do you want me to talk about the change of form 7 of political -- 8 Q Say what you -- 9 A By killing all these heavy weight of the 10 ,Imean, Dr. Ganj i is one e p r pJ s• who 11 survived this generation and I hope he will. But the form 12 of political activities is changing slowly. 13 A new generation is coming up who is completely 14 integrated in the life of the countries where they are 15 living now abroad. But they are also very much involved in 16 their countries of origin, problem and situation. 17 So you have a huge body, very active almost with 18 no head and trying to Internet. There is a very strong 19 activity and solidarity between Iranian who even they don't 20 know each other but they collaborate with each other and 21 this is a big problem for the Iranian regime. 22 They don't know exactly whom they should kill. 23 They see hundreds of E-mail received by the Japanese 24 authorities against the, you know, all the honor they're 25 doing to President Hatami and they remind the Japanese MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 94 1 authorities of the atrocities or the human rights violation 2 in Iran but they don't exactly know who they should kill for 3 that. 4 Q So you characterize this as a body without many 5 heads. We have Dr. Ganji who is sitting with us today. Is 6 part of that the fact that there is this large body without 7 many heads, is that because of the concerns of Iranian 8 citizens? They don't want to put themselves out there 9 because of the violence that may -- 10 A I iinkit'sboththings and also a new generation 11 and a new situation and the political context of the world 12 has changed. So possibly the one who is working here is not 13 the one who wants to go back and be the leader but he wants 14 to do something for his country. So he send E-mails. He 15 collaborates with things. 16 Anyway, if the democratic change is to take place, 17 it should -- we need leadership. And this is not possible. 18 But for the time being the difficulty the regime has to 19 fight and to identify these whole body of Iranians abroad 20 who are actively opposing them without showing or, you know, 21 trying to distinguish themselves. 22 I am necessary. I mean, I try to avoid any 23 contact with Iranian coming from Iran. An I prefer working 24 through E-mail Internet and I don't want them to know what 25 I'm doing, you know. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, SE. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 95 1 Q But in part it's definitely attributable to 2 concerns about personal safety in light of what happened to 3 all the heads of all the organizations; is that right? 4 A Yes. Definitely. 5 Q Let me draw your attention please to Exhibit No. 6 17. This is a document entitled Iran State of Terror, An 7 Account of Terroristic Assassinations by Iranian Agents. 8 A Yes. 9 Q This was a report that was put out by the 10 parliamentary human rights group in Britain. It's members 11 have increased to a current level of 130 parliamentarians 12 from both the house of commons and the house the lords. Ms. 13 Boroumand, does this document come from your files? 14 A Yes. 15 Q And have you used this document in your work on 16 this issue? 17 A The document we prepared was prepared before I get 18 this. But I have in this form and I use the information -- 19 Q And this document also contains a listing of 20 victims of the Iranian government; is that right? 21 A Yes. 22 Q And is your father in this document? 23 A Yes. I think he's mentioned. 24 MS. MERRITT: Your Honor, I draw your attention on 25 Page 35. There is a mention of Mr. Bakhtiar. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 96 1 On Page 40 and 41 there is a discussion about Mr. 2 Boroumand and Elahi is also mentioned on Page 41. I'd also 3 note in terms of how thorough the Iranian government also 4 is, just to point out to Your Honor, there is a notation 5 above Mr. Boroumand of Hashem Abdollahi who was the son of 6 the major witness in the Bakhtiar trial who was killed in 7 his father's apartment. And I guess this is something that 8 has been linked back to Iran as well. 9 BY MS. MERRITT: 10 Q This is another listing of victims that you find 11 to be a very valuable source to you in your work? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Is Iran, in the current day -- you mentioned 14 there's a large democratic movement. Is there also a 15 democratic movement within Iran? 16 A Yes. 17 Q Is Iran at the current time trying to suppress 18 that, the government trying to suppress this movement? 19 A Strongly. There is a very strong wave of 20 repression inside Iran pro-democracy. Student movement has 21 been savagely repressed. A lot of young students are kept 22 in jail without trial, without the assistance of the 23 counsel. And we know well that they are being tortured and 24 pressured inside prisons. 25 Q Are they doing any -- you mentioned the use of MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 97 1 drugs in keeping some students -- 2 A Yes. We have interviewed one of the young student 3 leaders who recently fled from Iran with two bullets in his 4 body. And we had a chance of interviewing him and he was 5 the person who revealed to us that they have a small gas 6 chamber. 7 So they did keep their political prison in small 8 gas chamber until they are suffocating and just before they 9 die they bring them back. They hang them -- but this is 10 al]ce y oc n t for 11 a long time as a torture method. The worse thing is they -- 12 they have heroin -- how do you say that? 13 Q Inject? 14 A Yes. They inject the heroin to destroy them and 15 to make them drug addicts. 16 Q Have human right organizations in your experience 17 taken note of the abuses within Iran as well as 18 extrajudicial killings? 19 A Yes. Amnesty International and to some extent 20 Human Rights Watch but in less detailed way. Every now and 21 then they come up with an alarming report on that. 22 Q I'd like to draw your attention to Exhibits 20 23 through 21. Have you done any work with Amnesty 24 International on this issue? 25 A We are in contact with their representative here. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-5666
db 98 1 And we exchange information. 2 Q Do they consult with you from time to time? 3 A Yes. 4 Q And are these reports that come from your files? 5 A Yes. 6 Q And you use these reports in your work? 7 A Yes. 8 Q And what do these documents reveal? 9 A Every where amnesty has a report on the situation 10 ira torture, prisonment for opinion offense or 11 extrajudicial, extra-terroritial offense -- execution. I'm 12 sorry. 13 MS. MERRITT: Your Honor, I would point out that 14 in the January 1992 report which is Exhibit 20 there is a 15 mention -- there is a discussion about extrajudicial 16 killings and Mr. Boroumand is noted along with Mr. Bakhtiar 17 as one of the victims of these killings. 18 BY MS. MERRITT: 19 Q Have you testified on this issue before the United 20 States Congress? 21 A Yes, in ‘97. 22 Q Is that before the Congressional Human Rights 23 Caucus? 24 A Yes. 25 Q Can I draw your attention please to Exhibits 23 MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 99 1 and 24. Were you invited to testify? 2 A Yes. 3 Q And by whom? 4 A By the Human Rights Alliance. It's Mrs. Porter, I 5 think, the wife of Congressman Porter. I don't remember 6 very well. She is the head of Human Rights Alliance. 7 THE COURT: In California? 8 THE WITNESS: Yes, I think so. Mr. Timmerman was 9 there, too. 10 BY MS. MERRITT: 11 Q Did Mr. Timmerman testify? 12 A Yes, as an expert. 13 Q Exhibit 24, can you please describe to the Court 14 what this document is? It's entitled Iranian Terrorism by 15 Ladan Boroumand. 16 A This is my talk. 17 Q What did you tell, in general from this statement, 18 what did you tell the Congressional Human Rights Caucus? 19 A I thank them because this is the first time we 20 were provided with a tribute to speak as victims because 21 most of the time as Iranian exiled victims we are 22 transparent. We are nonentities. 23 So I was very grateful to be provided, you know, 24 with the possibility to speak as human being and what I 25 wanted to tell them is that there is a warfare going on MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-666G
db 100 1 between us and the regime and this warfare is an ideological 2 and psychological warfare. We want and we preach democracy 3 and democracy is universal. 4 But to prove that democracy is universal requires 5 that democratic countries behave consistently in accord with 6 their own principles. And if all the democratic countries 7 do not consider us as human being who have rights and 8 dignity, then all enemies are victorious ideologically 9 because they tell us and they tell their own people and lOt's what a killed Dr. htiar 11 that you see the idea of universal principle of human rights 12 is just an illusionary idea. This is not true because these 13 democratic countries they think of their own interests, 14 their economic interests and they do not respect you as a 15 human being. So you have no chance. We will deal with 16 them. That's what they did. 17 So I was thanking the caucus and saying if the 18 democratic countries respect their own principles and defend 19 us as human being, then it will shatter the safe confidence 20 of the ruling elite over there and this is a way of helping 21 us and strengthening us. 22 We don't need your money. We won't need your 23 arms. We need you just to be faithful to your own 24 principle. And from this faithfulness we will draw all our 25 strength and we wouldn't ask you for anything more but MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 ' Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 101 1 please be consistent. 2 Q And another individual who testified was Kejal 3 Abdouli. That's Exhibit No. 23. 4 A Yes. 5 Q Is this a copy of her testimony before that? 6 A Yes. I And this is the wife of an individual who was 8 assassinated in the Myconos Restaurant? 9 A Iranian woman who lost her husband. 10 MS. MERRITT: Your Honor,Iwould draw your 11 attention to part of the testimony in Ms. Abdouli's 12 submission to the Human Rights Caucus talking about the 13 Iranian regime has repeatedly and openly said it would do 14 everything possible to physically eliminate all KDPI leaders 15 and then obviously talks about her personal loss and the 16 loss to her son and her family. 17 Let me draw your attention to Exhibit No. 25. 18 THE COURT: No translation? 19 MS. MERRITT: No translation, Your Honor. Again, 20 one more of the few documents we don't have entirely 21 translated. 22 BY MS. MERRITT: 23 Q Ms. Boroumand, I left this for last because I know 24 this is sort of difficult for you. But can you walk the 25 Court through what happened the day that your father died? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 102 1 A My brother called me and said there has been an 2 attempt against our father and -- 3 Q I'm sorry. Can you please, continue. 4 A And so I went -- I took a cab. And I went to my 5 father's house. And when I arrived, a medical team was 6 there and after a while they said -- 7 Q Your brother found your father? 8 A Yes. 9 Q And your brother at the time was about 19 years 10 old and he was living with your father? - 11 A Yes. 12 Q And your sister lived in the United States at the 13 time and she flew over? 14 A Yes. 15 Q And you had your own apartment in Paris? 16 A Yes. 17 Q And your mother, she lived there also with your 18 father and your brother? 19 A She was -- at the time my older brother was 20 injured. He needed help. My mother was in Switzerland with 21 my brother. So she came from Switzerland. 22 Q So when you arrived there you were, in essence, 23 the head of the family at the time. And so you dealt with 24 the police and all those details? 25 A Yes. The police -- it's a very strange experience MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 103 1 because they, well, the first police who are from them, your 2 neighbors police they come and they don't see this. They 3 see just an assassination and everyone around is a suspect 4 and you are also a suspect. 5 Q And your father was actually found in your 6 apartment building? 7 A Yeah. By the elevator in the entrance hail. 8 Q Can you please describe to the Court what Exhibit 9 25is? 10 - _eExhibit 25 is each year to commemorate our 11 father. It's a kind of political ad in the exile weekly 12 which is published in London. Each time we remind the 13 anniversary of his death. We use that to honor the memory 14 of all the victims. 15 Q And every year when you place this ad in there, do 16 you add the additional names of the other victims of the 17 government? 18 A Yes. 19 Q Ms. Boroumand, you were in the courtroom when Mr. 20 Timmerman talked about the damages that are being sought in 21 this case. And you also mentioned previously that you feel 22 that people like yourself, like your father were considered 23 transparent or nonentities. 24 We're asking for a billion dollar in damages and 25 punitive damages. Is this something that you think that the MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-GGGE
db 104 1 Iranian court will take note of if the United States court 2 issued that kind of an award? 3 A As I told before, this is a psychological and 4 ideological warfare and the number you are mentioning has 5 symbolic values. 6 It means that somewhere in the democratic states 7 especially the judiciary because we had this experience with 8 Mykonos and had a tremendous effect in Iranian internal 9 politics, the effect which must be studied really. And it 10 ill n ha p z t t J czi c_. t _ iUL 11 against terrorist acts regardless of the nationality, 12 religion, race of the victims. And Iranians are valuable 13 being as human being, just simply as human being. 14 So far for the most cases we have expanded the 15 opposite and that has, again, strengthened the regimes 16 activity. Each time there is a precedence in court or, you 17 know, officially it will have shaken the certitude of the 18 ruling regime in Iran and by doing so it will help the 19 democratic movement. 20 I strongly support the highest amount of punitive 21 or whatever damage you want but it's important that an 22 America judge will issue a verdict for an Iranian 23 pro-democracy activist and say as a judiciary of a 24 democratic state we stand by these people. Their life is as 25 valuable as any other life in the world. MILLER REPORTING coMpANy, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
db 105 1 MS. MERRITT: Thank you. No further questions. 2 THE COURT: We thank you for your testimony. We 3 will take a luncheon recess and we'll be back in an hour and 4 15 minutes. So that will be quarter of two. 5 (Whereupon, at 12:34 the above-entitled matter 6 recessed for lunch.) MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 73 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 106 1 2 THE COURT: Good afternoon. All right. 3 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Your first book is all 4 highlighted. 5 THE COURT: Mr. Hirschkop, you must not have had 6 luncheon, or somebody on your staff must not have had 7 luncheon. 8 MR. HIRSCHKOP: My greatest skill as a lawyer is 9 hiring good staff. r ght We are ready to proceed, 11 thank you. 12 MR. HIRSCHKOP: I call Jacques Boedels to the 13 stand. 14 THE COURT: Sir. 15 JACQUES BOEDELS, PLAINTIFF WITNESS, SWORN 16 THE COURT: Good afternoon. 17 THE WITNESS: Good afternoon, Your Honor. 18 DIRECT EXAMINATION 19 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 20 Q Bonjour, Mr. Boedels. 21 A Bonjour. 22 Q You are here from France? 23 A I'm here from France, yes. 24 Q You live in Paris? 25 A I do live in Paris, yes. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202> 546-6666
dak 107 1 Q What is your profession? 2 A I'm what you call in the United States a lawyer, 3 but what we call in France an I!advocat!I 4 Q An advocat, you're a lawyer who goes to court and 5 tries cases; is that correct? 6 A Yes, right. 7 Q Thank you. And how long have you practiced law? 8 A Almost 30 years. 9 Q Where did you go to school? 10 A In Paris. 11 Q Which university? 12 A University of law and political science at the 13 same time. 14 Q When did you get your initial degree? 15 A In ‘60--'66. 16 Q And when did you get your law degree? 17 A In ‘71, because in between I entered the 18 diplomatic service. 19 Q Do you have both a Master's d gree and a law 20 degree? 21 A Yes, I do. 22 Q Okay. The Master's degree, is that a DES in 23 France? 24 A It's a DES, right. 25 Q And in the diplomatic service, where were you MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 108 1 stationed? 2 A I was stationed in Nigeria. 3 Q What did you do? 4 A I was cultural attache. 5 Q How long were you in Nigeria? 6 A Three years. 7 Q In 1972, did you enter the full-time practice of 8 law? 9 A Yes. 10 Q Have you practiced consistently ever since? 111 A Yes. 12 Q Have you been with your present partner since 13 1981? 14 A Yes. 15 Q What type of work-- 16 A (Adjusting microphone.) It looks like a snake 17 against me. 18 THE COURT: It isn't. It's not a snake, but 19 sometimes if people are not careful with their wordsmight 20 describe it as such. 21 THE WITNESS: It will not bite me. 22 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 23 Q Mr. Boedels, the system of courts is much 24 different in France than in the United States, is it not? 25 A It's true because I'm not used to sit in the MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 109 1 Court. I stand where you are, and I face the Court. I'm not 2 sitting next to the Court. 3 THE COURT: Sir, I may tell you that any lawyer 4 who has ever sat in that seat, or any judge who has ever sat 5 in that seat, feels extremely uncomfortable. It is an 6 unusual position to be in, but relax as best you can, and 7 I'm just here to listen to what you have to say and to 8 absorb it. 9 THE WITNESS: Thank you, Your Honor. 10 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 11 Q In Paris or in France, are the judges involved in 12 the same way in a trial as they are here in the United 13 States? 14 A No, not at all. The judges interfere much more 15 than an American judge does, for instance. Let us say-- 16 THE WITNESS: Excuse me, Your Honor, but I think 17 that here you remain silent, you listen to what is going on, 18 but in France the judges interferes or has direct action and 19 say, Well, I heard enough; well, it's not necessary out of 20 the purpose. Well, the judge interferes every time. 21 THE COURT: Some judges do in this country also, 22 and it also depends on the case, the disposition of the 23 judge, the interest the judge has in the case, and whether 24 there's a jury or nonjury, as this case is. 25 Counsel? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 8 th Street, SE. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 110 1 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 2 Q I will point out there is a major difference of 3 why that causes that in great part, is in France everything 4 is submitted in writing in advance of the trial, is it not? 5 A Yes. In France, the judge has a file which 6 contains the whole story of the case, and when the case 7 comes to court, we review the evidences, but we don't 8 present evidences to the judge before the court because 9 everything has been contained in the file which is on the l0 11 Q So, it's done principally in prior writings as 12 opposed to live witnesses, which we favor more in this 13 country? 14 A Yes. The live witnesses come to the court only to 15 confirm what they said before. 16 Q And an average trial in France takes about how 17 long? 18 A Well, it's very short. Let's say that the trials, 19 such as your type, Your Honor, will last, let us say, 20 maximum two hours, maximum. 21 Q What type of work have you mainly done in law 22 practice? 23 A Well, by test, I'm a litigator, but in France we 24 don't have the same system as you do in the United States. 25 People who are writing contracts and litigators, but MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 111 1 old-fashioned lawyer and litigator. Mainly, I'm litigator. 2 Q You say you're an old-fashioned lawyer, and I'm 3 going to get to that in a minute. You do commercial work. 4 Have you written any books? 5 A Yes. Well, as a hobby, I wrote books on mainly on 6 the history of judicial costumes, costumes of lawyers and 7 judges, the origin of these costumes and the reason why the 8 judges and lawyers are wearing costumes--or maybe the reason 9 why they don't wear costume--and the history of judicial 10 traditions. 11 Q And have you had a particular interest in helping 12 refugees, people who come from other countries to France, 13 over the years? 14 A Yes. For personal--as personal action, I help 15 refugees and people who are seeking asylum in France. 16 Q Is this a cultural commitment that you feel for 17 your generation? 18 A Yes. Well, it was traditional in old-fashioned 19 lawyers to have what you call “pro bono” cases and helping 20 people who are coming to you without any help, without any 21 money, and help them and give them the assistance they are 22 requiring. 23 Q And do you find that many of the people who come 24 to France, Paris, which is such an international city, have 25 difficulty with the language very often, don't have the MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 112 1 economic means for legal help, require such help from 2 lawyers? 3 A Yes, they do, because we don't have a system, 4 legal help, legal assistance, as do you in the United 5 States. It's not so widespread, not so developed. 6 Q Do you find the young lawyers, the younger 7 generation, doing the same thing? 8 A Unfortunately, no, because they don't want to be 9 involved in old-fashioned cases there. They're much more 10 concentrate on business law. 11 Q In the beginning of your practice in France, do 12 you have to have an apprenticeship, five years of practice, 13 to be an advocate? 14 A When we are sworn in, we become an advocate, but 15 for tax reasons, because there are some taxes--we are not 16 liable to some taxes, when we try to extend the delay of our 17 apprenticeships as long as possible, and the maximum is five 18 years. 19 Q And during the first five years of practice, how 20 many pro bono cases involving foreigners and mostly 21 foreigners and multilingual problems that do you? 22 A When I was appointed, I made a statistic for 23 myself: 300 times. 24 Q How many languages do you speak? 25 A One more than my father. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 113 1 He spoke five, I understand? 2 A Yes. 3 Q Which six languages do you speak? 4 A Well, I speak French; I speak Russian; I tried to 5 speak English, although I have a French accent; Spanish; 6 Dutch; and German. 7 Q In 1990, did you meet with Dr. Ganji? 8 A Yes. 9 Q And what did he ask you to do? 10 A. Well, he asked me to handle a case for his 11 organization, and he wanted me to assist his organization in 12 a case which was under investigation by Judge Bruguiere for 13 the assassination of his deputy, Cyrus Elahi. 14 Q Have you undertaken that representation for the 15 last ten years? 16 A Yes. 17 Q In those ten years, have you become familiar with 18 the type of protection that Dr. Ganji has had to experience 19 to stay alive in Paris? 20 A Well, I think that life of Dr. Ganji is a miracle 21 because it was under the close control of secret agents of 22 the Republic of Iran who wanted to eliminate him, to kill 23 him. So, he had to live with extreme caution, avoid all the 24 traps which were in all the plans which were elaborated 25 against him in order to kill him. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 114 1 So, when I met him, I met him, it was under 2 protection--under police protection, and he couldn't lead a 3 normal life, and he couldn't leave, for instance, his car 4 without at least having three bodyguards, Frenchmen these 5 men, bodyguards with him. When he met me in my office, one 6 bodyguard was waiting downstairs, one bodyguard was coming 7 to my office, and the other one was waiting in the street. 8 Q Does he always travel in an armored car? 9 A Yes, he had armored car. 10 Q Are you familiar with the special training, the 11 French police, the German place, and the American 12 authorities, have had to give him so he could stay alive? 13 A Yes, because I think that French police 14 realize--maybe a little bit too late--that it was necessary 15 to give special protection to freedom fighters because they 16 were systematically assassinated by agents from the Republic 17 of Iran. 18 Q All right. 19 MR. HIRSCHKOP: You have been patient in me asking 20 him questions about the French system, and there is a method 21 to my madness. In order to understand the documents from 22 Judge Bruguiere, and it is necessary now to go into that, so 23 if you could bear with me I will get it done quickly. 24 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 25 Q I understand there are three kinds of offenses in MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 115 1 the French system; is that correct? 2 A Yes, criminal offenses, yes, there are three 3 kinds. 4 Q And what are they? 5 A The first one, let us say, I will use words maybe 6 they could be confusing for you, but each time I try to be 7 as specific as possible. 8 First-class offenses concerns, well, petty traffic 9 offenses and, well, backpacking. They are judged by one 10 judge, which is called the tribunal de police--police ii tribunal. The police tribunal can sentence people to a fine 12 or the maximum to two months imprisonment, but in 30 years I 13 have never heard of somebody who has been sentenced to two 14 months imprisonment by the tribunal police. It's purely 15 theoretical. 16 Then we have second-class offenses. Second-class 17 offenses concerns, for instance, robberies, embezzlements, 18 prostitution, where they are judged by tribunal 19 correctional--correctional tribunal, which can normally 20 award up to five years' imprisonment, with the exception of 21 some important derelicts such as “foot” traffic or 22 association of conspiracy, where the sentence can be up to 23 20 years. 24 Then you have third-class offenses, which are 25 called here in the United States “crimes, “ and crimes are MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, SE. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 116 1 judged by a criminal code with a jury. And, of course, the 2 sentence can be up to life sentence. 3 Q Does France have the death penalty? 4 A We don't have death penalty since 1981. 5 Q And these serious offenses, is this the Court of 6 Assizes, I think you said? 7 A Yes, the Court of Assizes is in charge of these 8 offenses, but they are two Courts of Assizes. Normal one 9 with a jury, but for special cases--for instance, 10 terrorism--there is a special Court of Assizes which is 11 composed of professional judges only in order to avoid the 12 pressure on the jurors. And this court is composed of nine 13 professional judges without a jury. 14 Q Why is that? 15 A In order to avoid pressure on the jurors because 16 you know the jurors, the names are known of the accused 17 because it knows the name because it can recuse some of the 18 jurors because it knows the names and addresses of the 19 jurors. 20 To avoid such convenience (sic), the court 21 appoints professional judges. 22 THE COURT: Do the judges sit separately on the 23 case, or do all nine or groups of them sit on the individual 24 cases? 25 THE WITNESS: No, Your Honor. They sit-- MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 117 1 THE COURT: One at a time? 2 THE WITNESS: No, no, no. All of them at the same 3 time. 4 MR. HIRSCHKOP: That's a panel, Your Honor. 5 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 6 Q Now, when Mr. Elahi was murdered, how did the 7 investigation get started within the judicial system? 8 A In the French judicial system, the investigation 9 starts with, well, reporting by the police to the state 10 attorney, and then the state attorney asked the President of 11 the Court to appoint a judge who will be in charge of the 12 investigation of the case. 13 Q President of which court? 14 A Of the Paris court, where the crime took place. 15 And the President of the Court was a sitting 16 magistrate because in France we make the difference between 17 sitting magistrate and standing magistrate. Standing 18 magistrates are the equivalent of state attorneys in United 19 States. Sitting magistrates are equivalent, well, to 20 professional judges sitting in court. Sitting magistrate 21 cannot be removed. They cannot be displaced because they 22 are appointed for life. A standing magistrate can be 23 removed upon government's request. 24 So, the state attorney asked the President of the 25 Court, which is a sitting magistrate, to appoint a MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 118 1 judge--what we call the juris instruction--who will be in 2 charge of the investigation of the case. Juris instruction 3 is also a sitting magistrate, and the juris instructional 4 opens the five and is in charge of collecting all 5 information. 6 Q For the Court Reporter, is that judge of 7 instruction? 8 A Judge of instruction. 9 Q Thank you. Now, in the Elahi case, was someone 10 appointed? 11 A Yes, there was someone appointed, but you know, 12 once again, there is an exception in the law. For terrorism 13 and for terrorist cases, the President of the Court appoints 14 three--well, he has a choice between three different judges, 15 specialize in terrorist cases, and Judge Eruguiere is one of 16 the most ancient and most famous one. And these judges have 17 jurisdiction over the whole territory, over France--the 18 whole of France. Normally, the judge has jurisdiction over 19 the precinct where he works where he's appointed, but it's 20 different for the judges in charge of terrorist cases. 21 And Judge Bruguiere was appointed at the juris 22 instructional in this case. 23 Q Has Judge Bruguiere handled many famous terrorist 24 cases nationally in France? 25 A Yes. Judge Bruguiere is a very famous and started MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546- 666
dak 119 1 his career when I started to become a lawyer, and we had the 2 same seniority; not in the same way, but the same seniority. 3 Q Now, what does Judge Bruguiere do once he's 4 appointed? 5 A Judge Bruguiere will sense normally--he sends 6 interrogatory commission to the police, which means he 7 appoints police officers in order to make investigation on 8 this spot, and then police officers are collecting 9 information, send a report to the judge, and then the judge 10 decides to hear witnesses, or to indict somebody when you 11 think somebody could be guilty of the facts which are under 12 investigation. 13 Q Is that similar to the grand jury's action in the 14 United States, if you can draw a parallel? 15 A To a certain level, yes. The judge, when he 16 thinks that somebody could be implicated or involved in 17 criminal matters, has the duty to indict him and inform him 18 that he will be under his investigation, and he has to 19 appoint a lawyer to defend himself. 20 Q Does Judge Bruguiere recommend a prosecution, or 21 does he send a report that has pros and cons? In other 22 words, information favorable to the defendants and 23 information negative to the defendants. 24 A Well, Judge Bruguiere, as all judges in juris 25 instruction, is an independent judge, so he has to collect MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 120 1 information, but this information could be in favor of the 2 accused or against the accused. He has to collect them. 3 After, when he thinks that the file contained sufficient 4 evidence, he may either dismiss the accusation or send the 5 file to the state attorney in order to receive his 6 instruction. 7 When the state attorney decides that this file 8 should be brought to the criminal court, Judge Bruguiere has 9 to send the file to court of appeal, to a special section of 10 the court of appeal, chamber of accusation, where the case 11 is once again pleaded in order to know whether the case has 12 to be sent to the court of assizes, or whether the case has 13 to be--the accusation has to be dismissed. 14 Q Now, with regard to the Elahi matter, did Judge 15 Bruguiere open two files? 16 A Yes, he opened two files. The first one was the 17 assassination of Cyrus Elahi, and the second one was for 18 “association de manufacture,” which is conspiracy, but if I 19 want to translate into English, I would say that the exact 20 translation would be association of wrongdoers. But I think 21 that the crime is equivalent to what you know as a 22 conspiracy. 23 Q And, in fact, is that a class-two offense? 24 A It's a class-two offense, which shows by the 25 correctional tribunal. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 121 1 Q By three judges? 2 A By three judges. 3 Q Now, dealing with that, was a man named “Mashhady” 4 and another man charged with that offense and tried by three 5 judges? 6 A Yes. 7 Q Who was the other gentleman? 8 A Yazdenseta. 9 Q Now, as a result of that trial, was Mr. Mashhady 10 and Mr. Yazdenseta convicted of the conspiracy to murder Mr. 1.1 Elahi and Dr. Ganji? 12 A Yes. They were--their file was sent to the 13 correctional tribunal, and the correctional tribunal 14 sentenced Yazdenseta to seven years imprisonment--I'm 15 sorry--Mashhady to seven years' imprisonment, and Yazdenseta 16 to three years of imprisonment. 17 Q You have two books there, sir. Would you be kind 18 enough to turn Exhibit 58. 19 A Yes. 20 Q You have the public prosecutor's referral to the 21 Criminal Court of Paris? 22 A Right. 23 Q Is that Judge Bruguiere's referral to the criminal 24 court for the prosecution of Mr. Mashhady and Mr. 25 Yazdenseta, Y-A-Z-D-E-N-S-E-T-A, for the conspiracy to MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 122 1 murder Dr. Elahi and Dr. Ganji and others? 2 A Well, I know this document because I translated it 3 myself into English. This document was prepared by the 4 state attorney on the basis of the file which was 5 made--prepared by Judge Bruguiere. And in this document, 6 the state attorney recommends to Judge Bruguiere to send the 7 file for judgment to the correctional tribunal. 8 Q Does the document include statements from 9 depositions taken from various witnesses who came forward in 10 that case? 11 A In this document, the state attorney mentions, as 12 a support of his accusation, the different evidence 13 collected by Judge Bruguiere and the deposition made by 14 different witnesses. 15 Q All right. I refer you then--I will come back to 16 58, but number 59. Would you look at the next document in 17 sequence. 18 Would this be the document relative to the second 19 file that Judge Bruguiere opened up? Is this the referral 20 to the Court of Assize for the murder-- 21 A Yes. This is the document which was prepared by 22 the state attorney by the accusation for--sorry. It's the 23 document which was the judgment which was rendered by the 24 court of appeal section--chamber of accusation for sending 25 Mashhady to the criminal court. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 123 1 Q So, this comes from the Court of Appeals to the 2 Court of Assize, laying out the basis for the murder charges 3 against Mr. Mashhady. 4 A Yes. 5 This document will be read by the court--by the 6 registrar of the Court of Assizes, and contains the 7 accusation against Mashhady. 8 THE COURT: And you were the attorney for Mr. 9 Elahi; is that correct? 10 THE WITNESS: Yes. 11 MR. HIRSCHKOP: And Your Honor, if you please, I 12 will clear that up. 13 THE COURT: It's on page three. 14 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Yes, but it's the wrong Mr. Elahi. 15 It's a strange proceeding. We are in a criminal case, and 16 you seek civil relief. 17 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 18 Q Let me ask you about that, please, Jacques. The 19 papers list you as representing Mr. Elahi's younger brother. 20 Do you recall? 21 A Yes. 22 Q You entered on behalf of the family--is that 23 correct?--the Elahi family. 24 A Yes, I do. 25 Q And what is your purpose--your role--in this MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8t Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 54G-6666
dak 124 1 criminal prosecution? 2 A As I represent the family of the victim, nothing 3 can be done without my presence or the presence of the 4 family. So, therefore, no prosecution can take place 5 without the presence of the family because on this occasion 6 I can speak to the court--speak to the court and explain the 7 reason why the family wants this case to be sent to the 8 Court of Assizes, and why the family wants Mr. Mashhady to 9 be sentenced for murder. 10 Q Going back to the first case, the class-two where 11 Mr. Mashhady got seven years, Mr. Yazdenseta was also 12 sentenced, was there an appeal of that conviction? 13 A Yes. An appeal was made against that conviction, 14 and the appeal was rejected by the Court of Appeals. 15 Q And did he appeal to the Supreme Court of France? 16 A Yes, and the appeal was rejected again. 17 Q And did you participate in both of those appeals? 18 A No, because--well, for certain reason, technical 19 reasons, the conspiracy is a crime against society and not 20 against an individual; so, therefore, there is no plaintiff. 21 Q But in the murder case there is? 22 A Yes, because it's a crime against a person, an 23 individual; so, therefore, there must be somebody who 24 represents either the individual or his family. 25 Q Now, in the murder case, did you consult MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 ' Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 125 1 repeatedly with Judge Bruguiere in his investigation? 2 A Yes, of course, because I have a permanent access 3 to the file. 4 And as what we call plaintiff representing the 5 family, I can ask Judge Bruguiere to make some special and 6 particular investigations. It's my right or my duty. 7 Q So, for instance, in the murder case, did you 8 secure articles from Germany and translate that and give 9 them to Judge Bruguiere? 10, A Yes, because I thought that the interest of this 11 case was not only to concentrate on the murder which took 12 place in Paris, but I wanted to connect all the murders 13 which took place in Europe against opponent to the Iranian 14 regime. For that reason, reading the German press, I 15 realize that the same case was being tried in Germany; and, 16 therefore, I informed Judge Bruguiere of this trial in 17 Germany, in Berlin. 18 Q And did you take articles from Stern and other 19 major publications and translate them for Judge Bruguiere? 20 A Yes, and I translated for the Mykonos case - 21 articles so that Judge Bruguiere could add them to the file. 22 Q This Mykonos case that the Judge now has heard 23 about several times where the leader of the KDPI was 24 assassinated and the German authorities convicted people who 25 were directly linked to Mr. Fallahian, the head of MOIS-- MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 126 1 A Right. 2 Q --did you determine that from those documents? 3 A Well, what was important for me in the Mykonos 4 case, that according to the newspapers in Germany, there was 5 a weakness, a secret weakness, a defector, and Iranian 6 defector, and nobody knew his name because he wanted to 7 remain secret. 8 Q Is he called Witness C in the documents? 9 A He's Witness C in the documents. 10 And I wanted Judge Bruguiere to have a connection Ii with him and send an interrogatory commission because this 12 witness was under protection, and it was protected by the 13 German police. And, of course, he didn't want to enter 14 France. Nobody knew his name. Later on, I knew that it was 15 difficult for him to enter France because it was before 16 working with the Iranian embassy, and he was expelled from 17 France for having spying activities in France. 18 Q He had been a high-ranking Iranian official, had 19 he not? 20 A Yes, he was high-ranking official. He was in 21 charge of terrorist actions outside Iran. 22 Q Just so--because the Court will see this record, 23 the Court is clear, was this Mr. Mesbahi? 24 A He's called Mesbahi, but at that time it was only 25 known as Witness C, and it was traveling between Germany and MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 ” Street, S.E. Washington, D .C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 127 1 Canada, protected by CIA in Canada, protected by the German 2 police in Germany. 3 Q And to the best of your knowledge, is he now under 4 our witness protection program unavailable to us? 5 A I think he's unavailable to us for two reasons: 6 First, I think that he will fear to come without special 7 protection. Second, that we do not know how to contact him. 8 If he has to be contacted, it should be done through secret 9 or intelligence services, and I doubt that Secret Services 10 will cooperate for any kind of cases, open-court cases. 11 Q Mr. Boedels, who is Bruno Jost, J-O-S-T? 12 A Bruno Jost is the state attorney in charge of the 13 Mykonos case in Berlin. 14 Q Did he secure the convictions in Berlin? 15 A Yes, he did his best, and he brought all evidence 16 for the German court. 17 Q As part of your inquiry into the Mykonos matter to 18 get the information on Mr. Mesbahi, did you have 19 communications with Mr. Jost directly? 20 A Yes. I spoke with him twice on the phone, asking 21 for information, and asking for--well, for the outcome of 22 the Mykonos case, and asking him whether it would be 23 possible to investigate and ask questions to Witness C. 24 Q And were you denied that? 25 A He said that it was possible, but, of course, it MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 128 1 had to--he will do his best. He will recommend to Witness C 2 to answer the questions, but, of course, it had to be done 3 through interrogatory commission. That's the reason why I 4 went to Judge Bruguiere and made a formal request for 5 interrogatory commission to investigate Witness C. 6 Q When you made this request of Judge Bruguiere, is 7 that when you gave him the translations you had made from 8 the German press to convince him that he should do this? 9 A Yes, I gave him evidence, the German press, so 10 that he knew that an important witness could give important 11 information for the case he was investigating. 12 Q And, in fact, did Dr. Ganji testify in the trial 13 in Berlin of the Mykonos case? 14 A Yes, he did. 15 Q And did he give depositions as an expert in the 16 Mykonos case? 17 A Yes, he did. 18 Q Now, did Judge Bruguiere follow your 19 recommendation to have letters of interrogatory sent to 20 Germany to take a deposition of Mr. Mesbahi? 21 A Yes, he did. He did it twice. The first one, he 22 sent interrogatory commission to the German police, and the 23 German police asked questions to Witness C. And then he sent 24 French policemen--police officers--who met Witness C in 25 Germany with the assistance of the German police, and MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 129 1 questions were asked to Witness C. 2 Q In your role in representing the plaintiff in the 3 criminal case--little different from what we do--did you get 4 to read the deposition of Witness C in the Elahi case? 5 A Yes, of course. As I told you, I have permanent 6 access to the file. And I read the deposition made by 7 Witness C in Germany. 8 Q And did Witness C testify that MOIS and Iranian 9 intelligence specifically ordered the assassination of Dr. 10 Elahi? 11 A Yes. Witness C said that the assassination was 12 determined, planned, organized, and executed under the 13 instruction of high-rank officials in Iran. 14 Q Was this consistent with other evidence given in 15 these two documents we now referred to, Exhibits 57 and 58, 16 the referrals to the criminal courts? Witness C testified 17 the responsibilityof the Iranian MOIS and government. 18 A Yes. 19 Q Was it consistent with other evidence? 20 A Yes. 21 Q Let's talk about that other evidence. 22 In the two referral documents, there are 23 interviews with Mr. Mashhady. Did Mr. Mashhady admit that 24 he was approached by Iranian intelligence to start a plan to 25 assassinate Dr. Ganji? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 130 1 A Well, Mr. Mashhady knew what he was doing. He was 2 representing the Iranian Secret Services in France, so, in 3 this position, he was in charge of selecting people for 4 assassinations. For this job, he has two possibilities. 5 The first one he gave to people some money. He offered them 6 money. 7 Q To whom did he offer money? 8 A Well, he offered money to, for instance, somebody 9 who is Ghorbanifar and Yazdenseta. 10 Q G-H-O-R-B--A-N-I-F-A-R. 11 Did Mr. Ghorbanifar go to the French Secret 12 Service and say, I have been given such an offer at some 13 point? 14 A Yes, he did. He did, because Ghorbanifar became a 15 drug addict because Mashhady gave him drugs, heroin, for his 16 own use and for dealing heroin. 17 Q Was this common practice for the intelligence 18 people from Iran involved in assassinations to bring heroin 19 to give to people to get them to do things for them? 20 A Yes, I realize from other cases that is common 21 practice. They give heroin to drug addicts of people who 22 are dealing with errands; therefore, they get the money, and 23 they are linked with the people who give them heroin. And 24 that's what Mashhady did. 25 Q Just so we are clear, was the original plot to MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 ' Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6E56
dak 131 1 assassinate Dr. Ganji? 2 A The original plot was to assassinate three people: 3 First, Dr. Ganji; second, Cyrus Elahi; and third Princess 4 Ashraf. 5 Q Was there a time Dr. Ganji was warned that his 6 assassination would be imminent and he left and went to 7 Egypt? 8 A Yes, Dr. Ganji was informed by the French police 9 that his assassination was imminent. 10 Q Was it shortly thereafter that Dr. Elahi was, in 11 fact, assassinated? 12 A Right. They couldn't get Dr. Ganji, they decided, 13 I think, that they had to kill somebody else, and they 14 spotted Cyrus Elahi. 15 Q In fact, didn't he specifically--Yazdenseta 16 specifically testify to that? 17 A Yes, Yazdenseta testified that he was approached 18 by Mashhady in order to take picture of Dr. Ganji--of Cyrus 19 Elahi. And then after having taken picture, it could get 20 more money if he decided to kill him. 21 Q Did Mr. Mashhady promise or say to Mr. Ghorbanifar 22 that he would provide him with a gun and a silencer to 23 commit the crime? 24 A Yes, he offered him to supply him with a gun and 25 silencer. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 132 1 Q Was Dr. Elahi assassinated with a gun and a 2 silencer? 3 A Dr. Elahi was assassinated by a gun which was 4 determined by the French police as a Romanian gun, caliber 5 7.65, and with silencer. 6 Q And did they also trace--the French 7 authorities--that that type of gun was used by certain 8 Iranian factions? 9 A Yes, they did. 10 Q Did they trace that the material, in that type of 11 silencer was used in other assassinations? 12 A Yes. It's common practice. 13 Q Did Mr. Ghorbanifar further testify that Mr. Elahi 14 told him at one point that he had been to Iran and met with 15 Mr. Fallahian? 16 A Yes. 17 I think Mr. Mashhady wanted to stress to 18 Ghorbanifar that he has very high connections. And, of 19 course, if he was doing what Mashhady was waiting for him, 20 he would be grateful, and people--high-ranking officers in 21 Iran would be grateful to him. He said that to impress him. 22 Q Did Mr. Ghorbanifar go to Orly Airport at one 23 point with Mr. Mashhady? 24 A Yes, he went to Orly Airport, but this meeting was 25 observed by the French intelligence service, and he met with MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 73 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 133 1 Mashhady, and Mashhady met the Iranian ambassador. And the 2 manager of Iran Air in Paris was a member of the Iranian 3 Secret Services. 4 Q Was that Mr. Anquizi? 5 A Yes, right. 6 Q A-N-Q-tJ-I-Z-I? 7 A Yes. 8 Q Did he also meet with Mr. Bagheri? 9 A Yes, with high-ranking official in Iran in charge 10 of special operations outside Iran. 11 Q Did Mr. Yazdenseta also testify that he was told 12 by Mr. Mashhady that he had received directions from Bagheri 13 and directly from Mr. Fallahian to accomplish these 14 assassinations? 15 A Yes. 16 Well, I think that the Iranians wanted to put 17 pressure on him, and to assure him that the orders were 18 coming from high-ranking officials. 19 Q In addition to these-- 20 THE COURT: That's what he said, that the others 21 had come from the high-ranking officials? 22 THE WITNESS: Yes, Your Honor. 23 THE COURT: And specifically included Dr. Elahi? 24 THE WITNESS: Specifically Dr. Elahi, Dr. Ganji, 25 and Princess Ashraf. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 35 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-GGGG
dak 134 1 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 2 Q And the princess was the sister of the Shah? 3 A She's the sister of the Shah, yes. 4 Q All of this you're saying about what Ghorbanifar 5 testified and Yazdenseta testified was completely consistent 6 with what Mr. Mesbahi, Witness C, had come and given a 7 deposition about; isn't that true? 8 A Yes. Witness C confirmed that the decision to 9 kill these three people was taken by official--high-ranking 10 officials in Iran. 11 Q And indeed, was there another witness named Mr. 12 Miandoab? 13 A Yes. 14 Q And he's a friend of Mr. Mashhady's over 20 years, 15 30 years, he said? 16 A Yes. 17 Q And did Mr. Mashhady confess to him that he was 18 responsible for the assassination of Cyrus Elahi? 19 A Yes, right. 20 MR. HIRSCHKOP: I was going to go through the 21 depositions, which I highlighted. I will highlight them and 22 hand them to you tomorrow. It will repeat what he testified 23 to. 24 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 25 Q Now, in your investigation, did you also review MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 135 1 documents, official documents, from the Mykonos case? 2 A Yes, I did. 3 Q I would ask you to look at Exhibits 45 through 48. 4 Do you recognize them all as official documents 5 with translations on the top--the German documents have been 6 included--from the Mykonos case? 7 A Yes, I do. 8 Q If you look at Exhibit 45, please-- 9 A Yes. 10 Q --was this a document, public broadcast by 11 Minister Fallahian, the head of MOIS, upon which the German 12 prosecutor relied, in part, to get a warrant for Mr. 13 Fallahian's arrest for the murders in Mykonos? 14 A Yes, it is, yes. 15 Q And document number 46, did they also identify in 16 Mykonos the type of weapon and trace it to the Iranian Army? 17 A Yes, exactly. 18 Q Did they also trace the murderers in Mykonos who 19 they were able to catch in other countries as being trained 20 in Iran? 21 A Yes, as frogmen. 22 Q Look at document number 47, sir. 23 Do you recognize this as Mr. Jost's preliminary 24 investigation where he requested the warrant against Mr. 25 Fallahian? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 136 1 A Yes, I do. 2 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Your Honor, there again we will 3 provide the highlight of the document. It very much speaks 4 for itself. 5 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 6 Q And lastly, sir, document number 48 in this group, 7 the verdict of the court, did the judges specifically find 8 that the Government of Iran was responsible for the planning 9 and execution of the murders of the four men at Mykonos, 10 including the leadership of the Kurdish Democratic Party? 11 A Yes. Well, the German utai--German 12 verdict--points out what is behind the murderers, there is 13 the government of Iran and highOranking official of Iran. 14 It was the first time that judicial document expressively 15 mentioned the complicity of Iranian regime. 16 Q What is the present status of the murder charge in 17 France? 18 THE COURT: In our case? 19 MR. HIRSCHKOP: In the Elahi matter. I'm sorry, 20 Your Honor, you're correct. 21 THE WITNESS: The case is going to be judged by 22 the court, the special Court of Assizes. It should be 23 judged, let us say, at the beginning of next year, maybe 24 March or April. 25 THE COURT: Sir, what has taken so long? We are MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INc. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 137 1 talking close to ten years, not quite, and what has taken so 2 long, if you know, for the forces of the law in France to 3 develop the case, investigate it, get information from the 4 other countries that might have been relevant, and come to 5 this final conclusion, after going through certain levels of 6 appeals? 7 THE WITNESS: Let us say, Your Honor, that normal 8 crime case in France takes between--in Paris takes between 9 three to five years. 10 THE COURT: The normal crime case? 11 THE WITNESS: The normal crime case, for the Court 12 of Assizes. 13 THE COURT: For the normal terrorist cases? 14 THE WITNESS: No, the terrorist is a little bit 15 longer for two reasons. First is there are international 16 interrogatory commissions, and then--and then it was 17 difficult at the beginning to discover who was--well, could 18 be indicted in this file. 19 And little bit by little bit, Ghorbanifar started 20 to speak, Yazdenseta started to speak out and to confess 21 that they were approached by Mashhady for killing Iranian 22 opponents. 23 But without these depositions, without these 24 confessions, it would have been very difficult for the judge 25 could reach a file that would be presented to the Court of MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 138 1 Assizes. 2 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 3 Q In the criminal investigation in which you had 4 full access to, did you also see the autopsy report? 5 A Yes. 6 Q What did the police find under the fingernails of 7 Mr. Elahi, Cyrus Elahi? 8 A Well, the police found flesh and pieces of cloth, 9 which means that there was a fight and that Elahi didn't 10 want to--well, to be slaughtered without fighting back. 1:1 Q Does the file also disclose that one of the 12 perpetrators--one of the criminals was seen leaving with 13 blood on his jacket? 14 A Yes, one witness mentioned that he saw perpetrator 15 leaving the scene of the crime with the blood on his jacket. 16 Q Did the police in their investigation look for 17 possible suspects who had scrapes on their faces as a result 18 of all the evidence they saw? 19 A Yes, of course. The police thought at the 20 beginning that it could have been--well, international 21 conflict inside the organization of Dr. Ganji, and Dr. Ganji 22 was suspected, and the police met him in order to see 23 whether he had scratches on his face. 24 Q And did the police conclude that, in fact, from 25 their investigation Mr. Elahi fought with his assailants, MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 139 1 and he was alive and saw them before being shot or at least 2 before passing away? 3 A Yes. Of course--well, Mr. Elahi was killed with 4 seven bullets--seven bullets--and the charge--well, the 5 pistol contains eight bullets. So, therefore, there was a 6 fight, a terrible fight, and he fought with the murderers 7 before being killed, but he had no chance. 8 THE COURT: Was there anything indicated in the 9 police report, in the autopsy report, or from any other 10 source that you know of, sir, that indicated how long it was 11 from the time that any one or all of these seven bullets 12 struck him to the time that he actually died? What was that 13 interval? Are we talking hours? Are we talking seconds? 14 Are we talking minutes? If so, how long? Anything that 15 tells us that? 16 THE WITNESS: No, there is no evidence, Your 17 Honor, there is no evidence. But I must say that it would 18 have taken, let us say, at least something like 30 seconds, 19 to my opinion. And 30 seconds with people who are willing 20 to kill you, it's a very long delay. 21 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 22 Q We don't know how long he may have fought with 23 them before he was fatally shot, though. 24 A Well, he was shot twice in the head, and the rest 25 of the bullets were shot in his body. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 140 1 So, therefore, if he was shot in his body, it 2 seems that there was a fight, but not only because there was 3 flesh under his nails, but also because there were five 4 bullets in his body. 5 Q Did you find out from your investigation after a 6 period of almost ten years Dr. Elahi would not have eaten in 7 the restaurant if he had to sit in front of the window? 8 A Yes, it's true, they knew that they were under a 9 permanent threat, but meeting Iranian opposition, I have the 10 impression that they don't care at a certain level. 11 Q And were you aware of the degree of training it 12 took in Germany, from German secret police, about being 13 followed and how to detect people following them? 14 A Yes, there were many reports from different 15 sources mentioning and confirming the threats against 16 Iranian opponents. 17 Q With regard to Dr. Elahi, he lived with the 18 sentence of death for almost 11 years. 19 From your investigation, were you able to 20 determine whether or not during those 11 years he had to 21 take special security precautions during the great part of 22 that period? 23 A Yes. Well, he lived with the permanent threat of 24 assassination, so they could not--well, move, go to another 25 place without having a special protection, without taking MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 141 1 care, without being cautious. They could not open the door 2 to drive the car, live a normal life, without the permanent 3 threat of being assassinated. 4 Q With regard to Dr. Elahi, the evening he was 5 assassinated, was that unusual that he was alone that 6 evening? 7 A No, normally he was always living with somebody 8 else in order to protect him. 9 Well, just for-- 10 Q I -fad he forgotten his briefcase somewhere and went 11 to get his briefcase? 12 A Yes. For instance, opponents cannot open the door 13 to a postman because they could be killed, as we saw this 14 morning. They cannot drive a car because, well, they could 15 be--the car could be--it could blow up. The car can blow 16 up. They cannot stand near a window because somebody can 17 shoot them. And they are under permanent watch of the--of 18 people who are only willing to kill them. 19 Q With regard to Mr; Bakhtiar, did you also take 20 part in his case, reviewing the file in his case? 21 A Yes, because the colleagues in charge of 22 Bakhtiar's families called me in order to receive 23 ‘information and help from my knowledge I had from Elahi's 24 case. 25 Q Did you review the police documents and the MILLER REPORTING coMPANy, INC. 73 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-EGGG
dak 142 1 prosecutor's report in that case? 2 A Yes. As you know, Bakhtiar was assassinated one 3 year after Cyrus Elahi, and I gave them all the information 4 they were in need of. 5 Q And were nine out of ten people charged for that 6 murder convicted? 7 A Yes. 8 Q Did they find in the Bakhtiar case a direct link 9 for MOIS in the central Iranian government giving orders for 10 Dr. Bakhtiar's death? 11 A Yes. The decision was taken in Iran, and people 12 came especially from Iran to kill Dr. Bakhtiar. They 13 received more money. They received weapons. They received 14 fake passports. They received assistance. And they knew 15 that they were supposed to do after the killing. 16 Q The Court asked you about the length of time on 17 these prosecutions. 18 Did the Iranian government put a lot of pressure 19 on European governments to not have these prosecutions or to 20 release the people? 21 A Yes, of course. There was a permanent pressure 22 against the French government in order to avoid the case to 23 come up in court, and in order to release the accused when 24 they have been sentenced. 25 Q And the form of that pressure was in barrels of MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. W3shington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 143 1 oil, was it not? 2 A Not only barrels of oil, but, of course, many 3 barrels of oil—- 4 THE COURT: Would you tell me from whom the 5 pressure came or from where the pressure came to not 6 sentence them, but to release them. 7 THE WITNESS: From the Iranian government. 8 THE COURT: Not other governments? 9 THE WITNESS: No. Of course, there were two kinds 10 of pressure: Oil and contracts with Iran; that's the first 11 one. 12 And second one, which is also important, that Iran 13 can also operate in other countries such as Lebanon in the 14 Middle East such as.Hamas and Hezbollah. Hezbollah and Hamas 15 can detain French journalists, like the did, for instance, 16 American journalists; and they can detain French citizens. 17 Now, while also bombing which took place in 18 France, and bombing can be attributed in the Metro and 19 Champs Elysee, and this bombing can be attributed to Iranian 20 extremists. 21 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 22 Q Were witnesses actually threatened? Mr. 23 Ghorbanifar was threatened with violence if he testified 24 against Mashhady. 25 A Yes, of course. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6566
dak 144 1 Q And was this traced to Iranian diplomats and 2 Iranian representatives? 3 A Yes. The French government at a certain level 4 had, well, a difficult time with the Iranian diplomat called 5 Gordgi, and Gordgi was supposed to be presented to a judge 6 in charge of the investigation of a terrorist case. And 7 Gordgi returned to the Iranian embassy, and during one 8 month, day and night, anti-riot police were surrounding the 9 embassy in Paris in order to obtain the release of Gordgi so 10 that he could be brought to the judge and that the judge 11 could receive his deposition. So, sometimes there was very 12 strong conflict between the two governments, and-- 13 Q I apologize. I don't have Mr. Gordgi's name. 14 Could you do your best to spell that one for us. 15 A G-O-R-D-G-I. 16 Q Now, Let's go back to the economic coercion. 17 Europe operates in what we call “sweet oil,” does 18 it not? 19 A Yes. 20 Q And sweet oil is low sulphur oil that's near the 21 ground that's produced. Iran has a lot of sweet oil, and 22 Libya has a lot of sweet oil. 23 THE COURT: Is that right? 24 THE WITNESS: Yes. 25 THE COURT: I realize we are abbreviating the MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 145 1 time, and that's fine. 2 MR. HIRSCHKOP: And looking ahead, actually Dr. 3 Clawson is an economist with knowledge in these areas, and 4 he's going to testify specifically on this. That's why I'm 5 doing that. 6 THE COURT: But since the question was asked, I 7 want to make sure the witness agrees with your statement. 8 All right. 9 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 10 Q And was there not bargaining between the Iranian 11 and European governments on the use of sweet oil and the 12 availability of sweet oil in order to put an end to Iranian 13 prosecutions, and not only in France, but in Switzerland and 14 Austria also, in murders there? 15 A Yes, they are permanent--permanent bargaining with 16 Iranian Government. 17 Q In the course of your work in the Bakhtiar case 18 and this case, the Elahi case, would it be fair to say the 19 files that were reviewed, the Bruguiere files, were several 20 feet thick? 21 A It's true. 22 Q And you just. picked out a few documents that you 23 sent to us that are the key documents showing the evidence? 24 A Yes. 25 Q And reviewing those documents, did you also review MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 146 1 the pattern of killings of other Iranian nationals in 2 France, in Germany, in Austria, in Switzerland, and others 3 related to Iran and Norway? Did you have a look at many of 4 those cases? 5 A Yes. As personal point of view, as personal 6 investigation, but for the first time--first time--in 7 history of killing of Iranian opponent, there is somebody 8 who is collecting all this evidence together and putting 9 them to court. You are doing that work, and you are the 10 first one who did that. No one did that before. 11 And it was--it's very important to show that it 12 was not a single assassination, but it was a whole strategy 13 to kill opponents not only in one country, but in all the 14 countries where they are: United States, Switzerland, 15 Austria, Germany, France, Belgium, everywhere. It's a whole 16 strategy. It is not just one killing. It's a system of 17 government. 18 Q Without making light of the loss of life involved 19 in the assassinations themselves or the impact on the 20 families of the victims, the countries themselves are 21 victims, are they not? 22 A Yes, of course. The countries are victims because 23 it's against their sovereignty, it's against their 24 reputation. We know asylum is a normal practice in 25 civilized countries, but when people seeking asylum are MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 147 1 killed and assassinated, it's against the tradition of the 2 country. 3 Q And the economics are great. France had to 4 provide special police, and this is not everyday local 5 constabulary; right? This is not a gendarme, but the 6 special police, the riot police. 7 A Yes. 8 Q They had to provide full 24-hour protection-- 9 A Yes. 10 Q --for Dr. Bakhtiar, Dr. Ganji, and numerous others 11 from other countries subject to terrorist activities. 12 A Yes. 13 Q There is a section that does that just in Paris 14 alone. 15 A Yes. 16 Q And that's in other places in France; is that 17 correct? 18 A No. They live and consult in Paris or in the 19 suburbs. 20 Q From your investigation in these cases and your 21 work over the years with many expatriates, did you find that 22 when one person is murdered like this, terror is spread to 23 the whole community, the whole Iranian community? 24 A I agree with you. I agree with you. The terror 25 was to be extended to the whole Iranian community. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 148 1 Q And I don't mean to pick on France today. We saw 2 today the videotape of Bakhtiar, happened right here in this 3 community--I'm sorry, of Tabatabai--happened in this 4 community. 5 Were you familiar with the press and the findings 6 of the Iranian bombings of a synagogue in Argentina where 7 many people were killed? 8 A It's true, yes. 9 Q And did you see this in your investigation as part 10 of the pattern of Iranian terrorism abroad? 11 A Certainly. 12 Q And is it true of many countries? Did you see 13 reports of hundreds of killings in Turkey directly 14 attributable to the Iranian Government of dissidents? 15 A Of course, yes. 16 Q Having reviewed the Bakhtiar files, the Mykonos 17 documents, and the Elahi files, is there any question in 18 your mind from that investigation that the Iranian 19 Government gave orders directly for all three of those 20 assassinations, including multiple assassinations in 21 Bakhtiar and Mykonos? 22 A There is no doubt that the order came from the 23 Iranian Government, from the minister in charge of these 24 matters. 25 Q You have come a long way, Mr. Boedels. I thank MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 7 5 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-G666
dak 149 1 you for doing that. 2 A Thank you very much. 3 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Nothing further. Your Honor. 4 THE COURT: Thank you. 5 (Witness steps down.) 6 MR. HIRSCHKOP: We have an expert economist coming 7 up. 8 THE COURT: We have to be out of here at 4:30 9 today. 10 DARIUSH ELAHI, PLAINTIFF WITNESS, SWORN 11 THE COURT: Good afternoon, Doctor. 12 DIRECT EXAMINATION 13 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 14 Q What is your name? 15 A Dariush Elahi. 16 Q What is your relationship to Cyrus Elahi? 17 A He was my older brother. 18 Q What is your profession? 19 A I'm a clinical investigator. 20 Q Are you an endocrinologist? 21 A I'm an endocrinologist specializing in diabetes. 22 Q Where do you work? 23 A I work at Mass General Hospital, which is major 24 teaching hospital of Harvard Medical School. 25 Q How long have you been with the Harvard Medical MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 150 1 School? 2 A About 15 years. 3 Q And Dr. Elahi, have you ever testified before? 4 A I have not. 5 Q I finally found a doctor who has never testified. 6 Sorry, sir, it's a lawyer joke. 7 THE COURT: Doctors are in a special position 8 here. He's a relative of the decedent. 9 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 10 Q Now, Doctor, what was your father's position? 11 A He was a physician. 12 Q Was he a cardiologist? 13 A Cardiologist. 14 Q And when did he come to the United States? 15 A I believe he came to the United States in 1948 or 16 early ‘49. 17 Q At the time where was his family? 18 A In Iran. 19 Q How many children were born at that time? 20 A At that time there were three of us. 21 Q Was Cyrus the oldest? 22 A He was the oldest. 23 Q And he was born in 1943? 24 A ‘43. 25 Q What year were you born, sir? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 151 1 A ‘45. 2 Q And the next child? 3 A ‘48. 4 Q And what is her name? 5 A Elahe, “Eli” for short. 6 Q Elahe is the same as Elahi, but an “E” on the end? 7 A Exactly. 8 Q Do you have a youngest brother? 9 A Ido. 10 Q What is his name? 11 A His name is Elham, E-L-H-A-M. 12 Q And are both your younger brother and sister still 13 alive? 14 A They are. 15 Q I will get back to them in a while. 16 Now, when your father came here, where did you 17 three children--you and Cyrus and your sister--live? 18 A We lived in an extended family with my uncle, 19 grandmother, great grandmother, and my other uncle in a big 20 household. 21 Q And your uncle's wife and cousin? 22 A My uncle's wife and cousin. 23 Q Okay. And at that time what did your mother do? 24 A My mother had two jobs in the morning. She was at 25 the school of dentistry, I believe in some associate MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 152 1 capacity or something like that, and afternoon she was a 2 midwife. 3 Q And your uncle, what did he do, the one with whom 4 you lived? 5 A He was engineer, and he worked for Iranian 6 Government. 7 Q Why did your father leave the family and come to 8 the United States? 9 A He father came here to further his education, as I 10 was told, for one or two years internship residency after he 11 was a physician in Iran. 12 Q And he came here in 1948; is that correct? 13 A That's correct. 14 Q Was that the year your sister was born? 15 A I believe she was two or three months old when he 16 left. 17 Q Did your mother and you kids follow him here after 18 a while? 19 A No, my mother came for a visit approximately in 20 ‘52 just for a short visit that lasted for a short time, 21 about two years. She became pregnant, and at that time, as 22 I was told, they were planning--they, my mother and 23 father--were planning to return to Iran to set up joint 24 practice, so they wanted the youngest child unborn yet, 25 Elham, to be born on the soil of Iran, so she came back to MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 153 1 deliver. 2 Q Soil of Iran is very important to Iranian people, 3 is it not? 4 A It certainly is. 5 Q Many of us feel that way about our native 6 countries, but Iranians particularly have a bond to the 7 Persian soil in the Persian country. 8 A I believe so. 9 Q Is this what you found in your -years of 10 involvement with Iranian culture? 11 A Extremely so, I believe so. 12 THE COURT: When your mother came here to visit in 13 1952, four years after your father came here--is that right? 14 THE WITNESS: Correct. 15 THE COURT: --did the children who were then in 16 existence come with her? 17 THE WITNESS: No, came alone. We lived with our 18 extended families. 19 THE COURT: In Iran? 20 THE WITNESS: In Tehran. 21 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 22 Q During those years, your brother Cyrus was nine to 23 eleven or twelve years old, was he not? 24 A Correct. 25 Q Did there come a time when Cyrus took over as MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 154 1 father of the family later in life? 2 A Yes. Shortly after we came to the United 3 States--I mean shortly, 18 to 20 months--my parents 4 divorced. Age difference between the oldest and youngest is 5 11 years, so my elder brother Cyrus assumed the role of 6 friend, advisor, confidante, father. 7 Q In those years when your father and mother were 8 gone, Cyrus being the older brother, even at that young age, 9 did he tend to take care of you kids? 10 A Especially me. Iwas youngest--I was closest to 11 age with him, so he tried to include me in all his 12 activities. 13 Q This special bond between you and your brother, 14 did that pass over when you went to college and lived with 15 him in Washington, D.C.? 16 A Absolutely. 17 Q I will get on to that. 18 In 1954, your mother returned, and Elham was born 19 in Iran; is that correct? 20 A COrrect. 21 Q Your brother Elham is not here today. He's a very 22 sensitive human being, I understand? 23 A Extremely so. 24 Q And do you think he's able to testify about these 25 things? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 155 1 A I believe he would stutter to the extent that you 2 would not understand him. 3 Q Okay. He lives in California now? 4 A San Francisco. 5 Q Okay. And you and I spoke about this and made a 6 conscious decision he wouldn't be able to testify? 7 A Yes. 8 THE COURT: How old is your brother now? 9 THE WITNESS: Forty-five, forty-six. 10 THE COURT: What does he do as an occupation? 11 THE WITNESS: He has injury and is not working 12 right now. He has severe limp in his leg, which was due to 13 some kind of work-related injury. I'm not exactly sure. 14 But he had many jobs: scientist, reporter. 15 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 16 Q In 1958, did your mother bring you four kids back 17 to the United States? 18 A We came here as landed immigrants, if that's the 19 right term. I'm not sure. My father became a citizen, and 20 there was some kind of petition in the whole family, 21 extended family, the four kids and the wife. My mother 22 came. 23 Q Your brother was naturalized in the United States 24 as a citizen in 1961; is that correct? 25 A All kids under 18, which is all four of us were MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 156 1 naturalized in one day. 2 Q When I said your brother, I mean Cyrus. 3 A Cyrus, myself, and my sister and my younger 4 brother. 5 Q When you came here in 1958, was that like meeting 6 your father for the first time? 7 A Certainly for me, and I believe for my sister, and 8 definitely for my younger brother. I don't remember my 9 father when--he left when I was less than two. My sister, 10 as I said earlier, was three to four months, and my younger 11 brother never met my father. So, for me, it was the first 12 time. 13 Q Did your father practice medicine in Long Island? 14 A He did. 15 Q And did you kids go to school in Long Island? 16 A We did. 17 Q And Cyrus, did he graduate from high school in 18 Long Island? 19 A Yes, Cyrus and myself and my sister graduated from 20 Long Island. 21 Q About the time your brother was graduating high 22 school in 1962, the year after he was naturalized, did your 23 parents determine to get married--to get divorced? 24 A Absolutely. 25 Q And what kind of ultimatum did your father give MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 157 1 you children? 2 A Well, I don't know if “ultimatum ' is the right 3 term, but he called us in and said, We are getting divorced, 4 and by law I have to support you until you are 18. This is 5 the United States. You have a choice with which parents you 6 choose to live. If anybody goes with your mom, I will stop 7 supporting you upon--at that time 18 I guess is legal 8 age--when you became of age. 9 Q What did your brother Cyrus tell you children? 10 A Well, then we met with my mother, and my brother 11 explained to my mother that he was about to go to college, 12 and there was no way my mother could afford the tuition even 13 at that time. So, he chose to stay with my father for 14 financial reason, and he stated that to my father face. 15 Q How did your father deal with that? 16 A I don't believe he ever forgave him until he was 17 assassinated. 18 Q And did your brother Cyrus stay with your father? 19 A He did. 20 Q He then went to college, and your father helped 21 him? 22 A He did. 23 Q All right. Where did your brother Cyrus go to 24 college? 25 A In Washington, D.C., American University. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 ' Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
Did Cyrus tell you other kids--you kids, I'm Doctor. Sure. At the time his younger brothers and sister, to his mother? He advised us. He did not tell us anything. He advised Did you three look to him as the older brother at as partly a father figure to give advice? I believe I was closest to him than I was to my any time in my life When you then children turned 18, did your father of you off as he said he would do? I can only speak for myself. Yes. And after that, did your brother Cyrus help you? Q sorry, A Q stay with A always Q that time A father at Q cut all A Q support A Yes. Q Did he always help support your mom? A Always. Not just me. He helped support the entire family. Q Did there come a time when you determined to go to American University to get your Bachelor's degree? A Yes. I consulted my brother, and I had several acceptances. It was a purely economic decision. When I went to American University, I could live with him, and MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666 dak 158 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1'l 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
dak 159 1 there was no rent, so I went to American University. 2 Q Did he help pay for your tuition? 3 A Hedid. 4 Q Did he take all his money and put it in a joint 5 checking account with you? 6 A We both had one account. You only use your 7 initials. Sometimes they thought we were husband and wife. 8 Q And did you routinely send whatever money you had 9 left over in that account to your mother? 10 A All the time. Weekly basis. 11 Q When your sister turned 18, did your mom then 12 determine to return to Iran? 13 A Again, it was based on consultation, financial 14 reason. My sister obtained a scholarship from American 15 University of Beirut, so my mother took my younger brother, 16 Elham, went back to Tehran, and my sister went to American 17 University of Beirut. 18 Q Is Elham E-L-H--A-M? 19 A It is. 20 Q When did you graduate college? 21 A I graduated college in ‘67. 22 Q Did you then go for a Master's degree? 23 A Idid. 24 Q Where did you go for the Master's degree? 25 A Went to American University. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 160 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Okay. Did there come a time that you went to Tufts? A Yes. I went to medical school at Tufts initially and transferred to Delhasa University, faculty of medicine, in Nova Scotia. Q Did your brother Cyrus continue to help you with funds throughout that entire period? A Yes. Q In 1967 or ‘68, your brother got his Ph.D.; is that correct? A Correct. Q And he stayed at American University and taught for four or five years there? A He did. Q Then where did he go? A I don't know the exact events, but he went back to Iran to teach at I believe it was called Mellee University. I'm not hundred percent sure. Q Were you aware that there were problems with SAVAK about his getting a job in Iran? A Yes. I was aware that my brother was, through the last two years of his Doctorate, involved with some kind of secret organization, and he kept his confidentiality, but there were hints. I was living with him. And when he called me to told me that he was thinking of going to Iran, MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6566
dak 161 1 he said he was not sure that there may be people who would 2 call me to ask me questions, and he was going to teach, and 3 he was going to get--he was getting difficulty getting some 4 kind of clearance. 5 At this time, as I testified earlier, we were 6 American citizens, and I was concerned that if you're an 7 American citizen, you can't work for the government of some 8 other country, and he told me that he have dual citizenship, 9 and that's okay, and I should answer truthfully to whoever 10 calls me up. 11 Q After he taught for a while in Iran--strike that 12 for a moment. 13 I asked you about SAVAK. SAVAK was the 14 predecessor to MOIS. 15 A Yes. 16 Q That was the group under the Shah that handled the 17 intelligence and things like that. 18 A Yes. 19 Q Now, after your brother taught for a while in 20 Iran, did he become the assistant to Dr. Ganji who was the 21 minister of education? 22 A Yes. 23 Q And did he remain the assistant minister of 24 education until the revolution? 25 A Correct. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 162 1 Q You described your brother as someone very caring 2 and a family and taking care of his younger sister and 3 brothers. 4 Was he someone you described always that had a 5 loftiness of human spirit? 6 A My brother was very concerned about humanity, even 7 when he was in Iran during the Shah, especially with respect 8 to freedom for women, and afterwards he was even more 9 concerned about what he felt the government--the 10 fundamental--injustices for fundamental human rights, and he 11 very much wanted to do something about that. 12 Q Have you recently asked your younger brother in 13 Los Angeles to put in writing what he felt your brother 14 believed in? 15 A Yes. As you know, I was asked to write a very 16 short synopsis in the last 24 or 48 hours, and I had to 17 cancel many things because this came to me and wasn't aware 18 how fast this was happening, so I asked my brother to--if he 19 could help me out by composing this. We had discussed this, 20 and he did, and I believe I have given you his version. 21 Q Do you have a copy with you? 22 A Ida. 23 Q Okay. Could you take that out, sir. 24 Now, this version, did lawyers have any input in 25 what went into this document at all? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 163 1 A Not only I spoke to them, I asked them, could you 2 please write something for me that I would edit. When I 3 received it, there was no room for me to do any editing. 4 thought it was very nicely done, so I forwarded it to you 5 without any changes. 6 Q This is your brother's view and your view of what 7 your brother Cyrus believed; correct? 8 A Yes, except my younger brother put it in much 9 nicer language than I could have. 10 Q Read it to the Court. 11 THE COURT: Do you adopt what your brother has 12 written there? 13 THE WITNESS: Absolutely. 14 THE COURT: All right. 15 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 16 Q Read it, if you like. 17 A I could read parts of it, if you like. 18 THE COURT: Do you want to read all of it? 19 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Except where it says “comma” and 20 “deleted,” but I want to show the whole thing to the Court. 21 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 22 Q Read what in there explains what your brother was, 23 what you people thought he was. 24 A Well, it starts out, I think I can-- 25 THE COURT: Tell me again the age differential MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 164 1 between your brother Cyrus and the one who is writing that 2 document. 3 THE WITNESS: Eleven years. 4 THE COURT: All right. S THE WITNESS: Before reading it, if I could say, 6 the person who probably most regarded my older brother Cyrus 7 as a father figure would be my youngest brother. 8 My youngest brother first describes some 9 educational background which we have already gone through, 10 so if you don't mind, I will skip that. 11 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 12 Q All right. 13 A Then it goes on saying something like this, 14 (reading) 15 Cyrus's outlook was a progressive one, and he 16 championed woman's rights, taking good care of the 17 environment, and the pre-eminence of individual 18 responsibility in personal and social matters long before 19 they became cliche. The last book he was rereading was The 20 Case of Modern Man by Charles Frankel. 21 I want to say that Cyrus's life and work, it was 22 the loftiness of what the human spirit and its endeavors 23 could do that was both the fuel and destination of Cyrus's 24 energies and efforts, in spite of the predominant darkness, 25 weakness and cruelty of the conflict of man. Cyrus believed MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 165 1 he had the obligation to pursue first the study of and then 2 to bring to reality social and political conditions 3 affording people more dignity, respect, opportunity and 4 freedom, to get to the places where everyone could rightly 5 feel themselves as respected and contributing members of 6 society. 7 These are not just words. Cyrus was the kind of 8 person that the African-American students would come to his 9 university office and cry and bare their sole because no one 10 had before acknowledged and respected them the way Cyrus 11 did. Cyrus was the kind of person who would encourage the 12 university janitor to continue the education and take 13 classes while writing position papers for the government. By 14 all this I mean say Cyrus was the kind of person who would 15 latch on to people sense and hope and responsibility they 16 themselves often were not in touch with and stimulate them 17 to go higher in life and spirituality. I can comfortably 18 say he inspired many, many students and policy makers and 19 everyday people intersecting his life to do better. And 20 would do this better than most priests and politicians, more 21 like a big brother. 22 Cyrus's approach to fighting for rights in Iran 23 was one of revelation and inspiration. He tried very hard to 24 bring stories of the everyday people in Iran to light and 25 illuminate how the current government abrogated rights of MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D .C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 166 1 fundamental human dignity and freedom in Iran by making 2 publicity known numerous violation of human rights in Iran 3 by the government and how the government threats friends and 4 foe by espousing obedience to the human rights charter and 5 giving people hope that things do not have to be the way 6 they presently are short of physical coercion. Cyrus thought 7 he could do the most for the people of Iran. Again, he 8 strove for honor and dignity for everyone, both at a 9 personal and institutional level. 10 As our parents were divorced when the children 11 were young, Cyrus being the oldest child, adopted many of 12 the father's responsibility to his siblings. He encouraged 13 all of us to be and do better. He financially and 14 emotionally supported us, but his example had been each of 15 us with college tuition as college advisor, even as he was 16 working as a student himself. He was always there for us as 17 an older brother and turned to for help as a father would 18 be. These actions, combined with optimistic nature even in 19 the face of something--sometimes sorry circumstances, 20 carried us forward individually and as a family, He was 21 also very, very cool in style and taste in college, always 22 without being pretentious. Given all the strengths and all 23 he did and how he loved us, he can only imagine what a 24 wonderful brother and central hub to my family, including my 25 mother and my father, aunt, cousin (all of whom grew up MILLER REPORTING coMPANy, INC. 735 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 167 1 together in the same household) , Cyrus was to us. My 2 mother chose not to marry because she wished to devote 3 herself to her children. She was destroyed by Cyrus's 4 assassination. 5 No matter how bad a situation, Cyrus always tease 6 out positive and constructive path to pursue. 7 In graduate school, he had copy of Picasso's 8 Guernica in his apartment wall, displaying closely with man 9 can do so readily. Cyrus was not a star-eyed dreamer. He 10 had a very good tap on the world history, which is why he 11 strove so hard to improve people's lot and respect of human 12 rights. His political hopes for Iran was a country 13 tolerance and everyone's right in pluralistic democracy. 14 Cyrus had many efforts to enhance woman's rights in Iran. 15 Finally, he would also say people cannot expect to 16 be better government and conditions until they came better 17 themselves personally. He would say before you criticize the 18 government, make sure that you are doing right yourself. 19 Not because he was my brother, but because of who 20 he was, Cyrus was very special and inspiring. He left a 21 long trail of people who live--whose life he positively 22 touched, and he had so much more to offer. It wouldn't make 23 sense for others to understand, but in Cyrus's case, for his 24 family, the brightness of the day, the shine of everything 25 around us has darkened in a way that can't come back, and MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 168 1 the stars and the moon and the sheen seems often invisibly 2 stained by the acrid smoke of hate and abomination, but no 3 matter how it passes, still burns you. 4 That's my brother's. 5 Q And just so I'm very clear, I have never 6 spoken--had any communication with your brother or anyone in 7 my office. 8 A Not as far as I know. 9 Q This was solely something you asked him to put his 10 thoughts about his brother on paper? 11 A He did this within six hours of me asking him to 12 do this. 13 Q And you say you agree with it, when the Court 14 inquired. There is one thing in here about your mother, 15 (reading) My mother chose not to marry because she wished to 16 devote herself to her children. She was destroyed by 17 Cyrus's assassination. 18 Was your mother able to attend Cyrus's funeral? 19 A My mother had a very severe heart condition, and 20 the fact that my brother was assassinated was judged by my 21 sister, who was in Iran at that time, to be withhold from my 22 mother's knowledge. And when she learned that this 23 happened, I'm told that she had a second heart attack. 24 Q Your brother mentions the picture of Picasso's 25 Guernica on the wall. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 169 1 Was that the picture you two shared when you lived 2 together? 3 A He had taken me to show it to me, and he did it 4 with such passion that I bought it for him as a present. 5 Q And last time he left, when he was divorced--I'm 6 going to get to this a little later--in L.A., did he give 7 you a present? One thing he treasured. 8 A Well, he wasn't getting divorced at that time. I'm 9 sorry if I led you to believe that. 10 Q That was probably my error, sir. 11 A He called me up and asked me to come out because 12 he was about to make a major decision, and he was asked to 13 rejoin Dr. Ganji in Paris. 14 THE COURT: This is approximately when? 15 THE WITNESS: ‘82, ‘83, possibly ‘84. I can't be 16 a hundred percent sure. 17 So, I was at NIH at that time. I flew over the 18 weekend, and we had long discussions, and his wife did not 19 wish to o to Paris. And I'm only telling you his side 20 because I have not spoken to her about it, and he said that 21 she gave him ultimatum that if do you this, that means you 22 are leaving me, and he was very uncomfortable with that 23 ultimatum. We discussed the pros and cons, and I advised 24 him at that time that I'm not someone who could render good 25 advice because I was having my own family problems. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 170 1 Nevertheless, we discussed this at length, and he 2 said he really wants to do this, and if he has to lose his 3 family over it, he would, and that there were certain items 4 that would be--were personal, were work-related that would 5 not be appropriate to live in the house because it would be 6 cumbersome, so he asked me if I could pack those and send it 7 and save it in my basement or give them away. They were 8 mainly political posters and stuff like that, which I did. 9 Then he took a book out which was a pencil 10 charcoaled etching, I want to say, of the poorest villages 11 of Iran. So, I treasured this book, and I don't know what's 12 going to happen to me. I want this to stay in the family, 13 so I want you to promise me •that you will keep this for me 14 until I ask you for it. I still have it. 15 Q That was the book your brother left you? 16 A Yes. 17 Q Now-- 18 THE COURT: Excuse me. Did Cyrus have children? 19 THE WITNESS: He did not. 20 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 21 Q And your father and mother are now both deceased? 22 A They are both deceased. 23 Q Cyrus went to Iran. Did he marry in Iran? 24 A Sorry. This is now going back in time? 25 Q I'm sorry, prior to the revolution. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 171 1 A Prior to revolution, he went back--when he first 2 went to teach at Iran, he subsequently got married to the 3 wife that we were just speaking about. He only married once. 4 Q And when he was in Iran, did you keep close 5 communication with your brother? 6 A Very much so. Initially, it was by phone and 7 letters which I still have cherish. 8 Subsequent 1 when he joined Dr. Ganji as assistant 9 minister--I'm not sure what the title was--he would visit 10 the United States at least twice a year for variety of 11 reasons, and he would make it a point to come and visit me. 12 He would not ask me to go to visit him. He would come and 13 visit me. And at that time I was doing fellowships and 14 training, so he would come to my--where I was. 15 Q Did he visit you in Boston and NIH here and Canada 16 and Louisiana? 17 A Absolutely, in all those places. 18 Q And did you speak with him regularly on the phone 19 while he was in Iran? 20 A I would say at least once a month, possibly twice 21 a month. 22 Q In 1979, did you become aware that there was a 23 notice of death sentence passed on your brother by the 24 revolution? 25 A My mother called me and told me that, and asked me MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 172 1 if I could speak to my brother. I believe he wanted to 2 protect me. At first he denied it, and he told me that it 3 was, and I should not worry. It was just propaganda. 4 Q Did your brother delay leaving Iran for any 5 reason? 6 A Yes, I had spoken to him consistently, and he told 7 me that things were in turmoil, and that he was worried 8 about his friend, Dr. Ganji, and he told me that I couldn't 9 speak on the phone, take my word for it, he will leave as 10 soon as he can. 11 Q Did you subsequently find out that he actually hid 12 Dr. Ganji in his house? 13 A Subsequently, I found out that he hid Dr. Ganji in 14 his basement, I believe, moving possibly twice, finally 15 driving with a third party to northern border of Iran, and 16 putting Dr. Ganji, I believe, on a mule or a donkey--I'm not 17 sure which--and crossing the Turkish border. 18 Q When he got home, was his house was ransacked? 19 A His house was ransacked because by now they 20 figured out he was hiding someone. 21 Q Did he and his wife then flee Iran to the United 22 States? 23 A That's when they fled. 24 Q After he fled to the United States, did he teach 25 at Michigan State University for a while? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-666G
dak 173 1 A Yes, he went to the University of Michigan. I 2 want to say Ipsewich, but I'm not sure that's the right 3 city. It came to me. 4 Q Did your sister also return to the United States 5 at that time to go to the University of Michigan? 6 A Yes. She transferred to the University of 7 Michigan at Ann Arbor, and I believe that one of the reasons 8 that he went to Michigan was to be close to my sister, so he 9 could visit her on the weekend and help her out. 10 Q Did yourbrother Cyrus take care of your sister? 11 A Absolutely. 12 Q Did he help pay for her college education at 13 University of Michigan? 14 A Almost exclusively single-handedly. 15 Q After teaching for a while in Michigan, did he 16 then go to Dallas to work with Dr. Ganji sometime in the 17 early eighties? 18 A Yes. 19 I'm sorry. I forgot to tell you something. I 20 believe my younger brother also graduated from the 21 University of Michigan, and Cyrus helped him with his 22 tuition. 23 Getting back to your last question, yes, he 24 subsequently went to Dallas, and again was working with Dr. 25 Ganji. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-666E
dak 174 1 Q Did they have work for some pro bono outfit in 2 Dallas? 3 A I'm under that impression that they were doing. 4 Q Did they run a bakery? 5 A They ran a fancy French bakery that I read about 6 in the New York Times. 7 THE COURT: Can I see you up here for a moment? 8 (Bench cOnference.) 9 THE COURT: I suspect your economist has 10 arrived--I'm not sure--and somebody has been going in and 11 out and escorting these gentlemen, so it seems to me that 12 this may be the moment where you want to interrupt the 13 testimony and put on the economist. But it may not be the 14 economist, so you are going to have find out. 15 (End of bench conference.) 16 THE COURT: Premature? 17 MR. HIRSCHKOP: You're exactly correct, Your 18 Honor. If I may finish one little line of questioning, then 19 I will interrupt this witness. 20 BY MR. HIRSCHKOP: 21 Q After he ran a bakery for a while in Dallas, did 22 Dr. Ganji then go to Paris to start the freedom--or take 23 part in a freedom organization with regard to Iran? 24 A I will very quickly tell you that during this 25 interval, my brother brought his in-laws to the state, and MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 175 1 the in-laws had moved to California. 2 Q Los Angeles? 3 A Los Angeles in particular. 4 And he called me up and says Dr. Ganji is going 5 back to Paris, and his wife did not want to do that, so they 6 have decided to move to be closer to the parents of the 7 wife, and they were moving to Los Angeles. 8 Q Did your brother then move to L.A. and run a 9 grocery store? 10 A In-laws had purchased a grocery store, and he went 11 and became the manager of a grocery store. 12 Q And is that when after a short period you went to 13 Los Angeles to talk to him, as you were testifying a little 14 earlier this afternoon-- 15 A That's precisely the case. 16 Q --about his desire to go to Paris, to join a 17 government in exile? 18 A That's precisely the case. 19 Q He had the choice of leaving his wife or going to 20 Paris? 21 A Right. 22 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Now would be a good time to 23 interrupt. 24 THE COURT: We are going to interrupt your 25 testimony at this time, sir. I understand a witness has MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 176 1 arrived, and it's important that we complete that witness 2 today. 3 THE WITNESS: Of course. 4 THE COURT: Thank you. We will come back to you 5 as soon as we can. It it's today, fine. If not, tomorrow 6 morning. 7 (Brief recess.) 8 THE COURT: The danger of taking a recess is 9 people hear about it, and they come to ask questions and 10 have solutions to their problems in my so-called recess. 11 We are ready. Good afternoon. 12 MR. MOOK: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Jonathan 13 Mook for the estate of Cyrus Elahi. 14 THE COURT: All right. 15 MR. MOOK: I would like to call Jerome Paige to 16 the stand. 17 JEROME S. PAIGE, PLAINTIFF WITNESS, SWORN 18 THE COURT: Good afternoon, Dr. Paige. 19 THE WITNESS: Good afternoon, Judge. 20 DIRECT EXAMINATION 21 BY MR. MOOK: 22 Q Dr. Paige, if you could state for the record your 23 full name and address. 24 A Jerome, J-E-R-O-N-E. Last name is Paige, 25 P—A-I-G-E. And my address is 1691 Tamarack Street, MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 73 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 177 1 Northwest, T-A-M-A-R-A-C-K, Street, Northwest, Washington, 2 D.C. 3 Q And Dr. Paige, what is your present occupation? 4 A I'm here today in the capacity as an independent 5 forensic economist to provide expert testimony. 6 In addition to providing expert testimony in 7 forensic matters on a part-time basis, I'm on the faculty of 8 the National Defense University in Washington, D.C., in the 9 Information Strategies Department. 10 Q Before that, what was your occupation? 11 A Okay. I have been at the National Defense 12 University for about a little over four years. Prior to 13 that, I was with the University of Baltimore from 1990 to 14 1996. In that capacity, I was academic administrator. The 15 title I had on the campus was Associate Provost, 16 P-R-O-V-O-S-T. And I had the responsibility for campus-wide 17 planning issues such as academic planning, curriculum 18 planning, and other areas that focused on campus-wide 19 issues. 20 Q And Dr. Paige, if you could just briefly state to 21 the Court your education after high school. 22 A Okay. After school, I have an undergraduate 23 degree in economics from Howard University. I received that 24 in 1971. In 1974, I received a Master's degree in economics 25 from American University in Washington, D.C. And in 1982, I MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 178 1 received a Doctorate degree in economics from American 2 University. 3 Q Okay. And do you have any professional 4 certifications? 5 A I don't have any professional certifications 6 beyond the degree. I'm a member of economic organizations, 7 member organizations, the American Economic Association, the 8 National Economic Association, and the Association of 9 Forensic Economists. 10 Q And Dr. Paige, within the last five years, have 11 you authored any articles or made any presentations in the 12 area of economics? 13 A In the last five years, most of my areas have been 14 in the area of public policy in areas related to strategic 15 planning. Nothing related specifically to items that I'm 16 testifying to today, and background of forensic economics. 17 Q And how long have you been--dealt with the area of 18 forensic economics? 19 A I have been providing expert testimony in forensic 20 economics since 1982. 21 THE COURT: Is forensic economics a subspecialty 22 of economics? 23 THE WITNESS:. Yes, it's the application of 24 economic principles to civil litigation matters. 25 THE COURT: Does that require a separate degree, MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, s.s. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 179 1 or by experience is sufficient to establish your credentials 2 in that regard? 3 THE WITNESS: By experience, education and 4 experience. 5 THE COURT: All right. 6 BY MR. MOOK: 7 Q Okay. And Dr. Paige, I would like you to turn 8 your attention--there are some books in front of you. 9 There's one book that I think has Exhibits 50 to 100 or 10 over. 11 A Right. 12 Q If you could take a look at Exhibit 99. 13 A Yes. 14 Q And do you recognize that exhibit? 15 A Yes, I do. 16 Q And what is that? 17 A That's a brief summary of my professional 18 background. 19 Q Okay. And do you also have a more extensive CV? 20 A With me? 21 Q No. Have you prepared one-- 22 A Yes. 23 Q --in the past? 24 A Yes, I have. 25 MR. MOOK: Your Honor, if we could offer to the MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 180 1 Court Exhibit 99-A, which is a six page--I'm sorry, a 2 seven-page CV of Dr. Paige. 3 THE COURT: That's a separate document? It's not 4 in the book? 5 MR. MOOK: It is not in the book as Exhibit 99-A. 6 THE COURT: So, we should read them both together? 7 MR. NOOK: Right. 8 THE COURT: I take it there is no objection. 9 MR. MOOK: I will ask this be admitted. 10 THE COURT: They're in evidence. I have agreed to 11 take all the exhibits in evidence, and then I will determine 12 what relevance and materiality and weight to give to them. 13 BY MR. MOOK: 14 Q Dr. Paige, have you previously prepared economic 15 analyses on the loss of income and fringe benefits of 16 individuals? 17 A Yes, I have. 18 THE COURT: Could I see that Exhibit 99-A. 19 MR. NOOK: Yes. Exhibit 99-A. 20 THE COURT: One will go to my clerk, and one will 21 go to me, and you may continue. 22 BY MR. NOOK: 23 Q Thank you, Your Honor. Have you presented 24 testimony before as an expert witness? 25 A Yes, I have. MILLER REPORTING coMpANy, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 181 1 Q Have you ever presented any testimony in cases 2 involving claims against the Government of Iran for 3 terrorist actions? 4 A Yes, I have. 5 Q Do you recall which cases in which you have 6 presented that testimony? 7 A The plaintiff's names, the last names, one was 8 Flatow, F-L-A-T-O-W. The second one was Eisenfeld. I'm not 9 quite sure how that's spelled there. 10 THE COURT: Those were before Judge Lamberth? 11 THE WITNESS: Yes. 12 The third one is Duker, D-U--K-E-R. 13 MR. MOOK: And I would submit to the Court and 14 move Dr. Paige to be qualified as an economic expert to 15 testify in this case on the issue of loss of income and 16 fringe benefits for Dr. Elahi. 17 THE COURT: Based on his experience, his education 18 and his educational credentials, he shall be so qualified. 19 MR. NOOK: Thank you, Your Honor. 20 BY MR. NOOK: 21 Q Dr. Paige, did you prepare an analysis pertaining 22 to the economic losses stemming from the death of Cyrus 23 Elahi? 24 A Yes, I did. 25 Q If I could turn your attention to Plaintiff's MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 182 1 Exhibit 100. 2 A Yes. 3 Q And Dr. Paige, is this the report that you 4 prepared on those economic losses? 5 A Yes, it is. 6 Q And again-- 7 MR. MOOK: Again I seek the admission of this 8 document into evidence, along with just as the other ones 9 are being submitted. 10 THE COURT: All right. 11 BY MR. MOOK: 12 Q Dr. Paige, based upon your education, experience, 13 analysis you performed, do you have an opinion within a 14 reasonable degree of certainty within the standards of the 15 economic profession what the losses, the economic losses, 16 stemming from the death of Cyrus Elahi are? 17 A Yes, I do. 18 Q And based upon your education, experience and 19 standards within the economic profession, could you tell the 20 Court what that opinion is. 21 A Well, the opinion was divided into two parts. 22 Since the economic losses were estimated from a period 23 starting in 1999 up until the year 2008, we had to make some 24 estimation of what the losses--potential income and fringe 25 benefit losses would be for Dr. Elahi. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 183 1 THE COURT: 1999? 2 THE WITNESS: 1990. I'm sorry. 1990 to the year 3 2008. 4 BY MR. MOOK: 5 Q Dr. Paige, in preparing this analysis, what 6 factual information did you use in making the analysis of 7 the economic losses? 8 A Well, I had some information on Dr. Elahi, his 9 age, his educational background, and his work history. 10 Q Okay. And Dr. Paige, you mentioned that you made 11 two different calculations; is that correct? 12 A That's correct. 13 Q And what is the basis for making two calculations 14 of the economic losses? 15 A Well, the basis for that fundamentally is that we 16 needed to come up with a number of options that would have 17 been available to Dr. Elahi. At the time of his death, he 18 was working or heading to work in humanitarian field, and 19 the economic losses would be associated with employment in 20 that type of work. But also Dr. Elahi had educational 21 background, training, and had been employed as a college 22 professor. 23 So, since we are trying to estimate economic 24 losses over a period of time, we did two scenarios, one 25 assuming that he would have stayed in the humanitarian MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 184 1 field, and the other assuming that he would have attained 2 the status of a college professor and worked in that field. 3 So, the two options are, one, based on his 4 immediate employment prior to death; and then the other was 5 based on his training and his experience and his work 6 history on campuses. 7 Q And Dr. Paige, did you have factual information as 8 to what Dr. Elahi's income was at the time of his death, 9 working in the humanitarian field? 10 A Yes, I did. 11 Q And what was that information? 12 A That information was that he was earning 13 approximately $4,000 a month. 14 Q Okay. And then in terms of pursuing a career in 15 the academic world, is there a way you came up with the 16 figure for how much he might be earning in that capacity? 17 A Yes. I relied on studies, particularly the report 18 that's published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics called 19 the Occupational Outlook Handbook, and in that it describes 20 the earnings of various professions, and there I was able to 21 obtain what the average would be for university professor. 22 Q And based upon that information, did you arrive at 23 a conclusion as to what the total lost earnings and benefits 24 would be for the estate of Dr. Elahi, first were he to 25 followed a career in the humanitarian field.? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 185 1 A Right. The estimates that we came up with would 2 be estimates, the total estimates less adjusted for a number 3 of factors, and adjusted for inflation or cost-of-living 4 increases, adjusted for taxes, and adjusted for personal 5 consumption. And then we have to adjust those down where we 6 call the “present value” where we could get in and talk 7 about that later. 8 Q Are those results specified in your report? 9 A Yes. 10 Q That is, Exhibit 100? 11 A Right. 12 Q I would like you to turn your attention to page 13 two of that report. 14 A Yes. 15 Q In the box of the top half of the page. 16 A Yes. 17 Q Does that present--does that box present a summary 18 of your analysis? 19 A Yes, it does. 20 Q And then what is the figure that your analysis 21 arrived at if Dr. Elahi continued in the humanitarian 22 profession? 23 A The adjusted figures for a number of--would be the 24 earnings losses would be $447,866, and the fringe benefit 25 losses would be $277,493, for a total loss of $725,359. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 gth Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 186 1 Q And that is if he had pursued the humanitarian 2 career? 3 A That's correct. 4 Q And did you come a similar type conclusion with 5 respect to the losses had Dr. Elahi pursued a career as a 6 college professor? 7 A Yes. Assuming a U.S. college professor, the 8 earnings losses would have been $561,504, and the fringe 9 benefit losses $406,123, for a total of $967,626. 10 Q Now, Dr. Paige, what I would like to do is take a 11 few minutes to go through with you the methodology that you 12 used to arrive at these figures. And I guess, first, is that 13 methodology explained in greater detail in your report? 14 A Yes, it is. 15 Q Okay. In terms of the factors that went into 16 these conclusions that you have reached, the first would be 17 the life expectancy of Dr. Elahi; is that correct? 18 A Yes. 19 Q And what conclusion did you reach with respect to 20 the analysis of life expectancy? 21 A The life expectancy figure or age would be 75.5 22 years. 23 Q And from where did you obtain that assumption? 24 A That's assumption--that would be the typical life 25 expectancy for all males in the United States. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 187 1 Q Okay. In terms of how long Dr. Elahi would work, 2 what is the basis? Did you make any analyses or assumptions 3 there? 4 THE COURT: Is this in the humanitarian field, or 5 is this as a professor? 6 THE WITNESS: These assumptions would be for both 7 situations. 8 THE COURT: Same assumptions as to how long he 9 would work? 10 THE WITNESS: Yes. 11 THE COURT: Okay. 12 THE WITNESS: We assumed through age 65 based on 13 U.S. model that if he were working as--and contributing to 14 Social Security, he would have been available for full 15 Social Security benefits at age 65. 16 THE COURT: Excuse me, but he wouldn't get Social 17 Security benefits if he were working in the humanitarian 18 field as he was. 19 THE WITNESS: That's correct. 20 THE COURT: In his particular chosen area. 21 THE WITNESS: That's correct. We assume 22 retirement age is 65 in both scenarios in the humanitarian 23 field and the U.S. college professor. 24 THE COURT: But the benefits would only be if he 25 were a professor? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 188 1 THE WITNESS: Well, it's my understanding that he 2 was-- 3 THE COURT: I'm asking as a question. 4 THE WITNESS: I'm sorry, Your Honor. It's my 5 understanding that Dr. Elahi was receiving benefits in the 6 humanitarian field as well, such things as life insurance, 7 health insurance. 8 THE COURT: But not Social Security? 9 THE WITNESS: Not Social Security, but access to 10 other types of retirement programs, yes. He's using Social 11 Security largely as a retirement type of program. 12 TI-TB COURT: Okay. 13 BY MR. MOOK: 14 Q With respect to lost earnings, I think you kind of 15 briefly just touched on that in terms of your testimony. 16 Lost earnings, what type of factors go into a calculation of 17 lost earnings? 18 A Well, if you turn to table two of six on the 19 report, I will walk you through that. 20 Q Igotit. 21 A If you look at column three there, for the 22 humanitarian work, the assumption was that he was making 23 $4,000 a month, and so twelve times four is 48,000, so that 24 the earnings losses are estimated to be on an unadjusted 25 basis of $48,000 a year. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 189 1 And then we assume, since this is international 2 work, there would be no U.S. taxes associated with it. 3 And then the economic losses in a case like this 4 is not the total income that an individual earns, but it's 5 the amount of income that would be available after the 6 individual took care of his own personal consumption needs, 7 so we have to reduce the earnings losses by the amount the 8 individual would have spent on himself in this case, and 9 that is represented in column five there. 10 Q And what did you use as a basis for determining 11 what the amount of consumption would be? 12 A Well, there are a number of studies. The Federal 13 Government publishes something called a “Consumer 14 Expenditure Survey,' 1 and that's how much people spend on 15 food, clothing, shelter, and how much they save typically on 16 average. And there have been other economists who have 17 taken that consumer expenditure data and adjusted it to come 18 up with what individuals would spend--what an individual 19 would spend on himself at various income levels. 20 And I relied on the studies of a set of authors by 21 the name of Patton and Nelson to estimate the personal 22 consumption adjustment in this particular case. 23 Q Is the Patton and Nelson study one that is 24 generally used by economists in making this type of 25 analysis? MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 190 1 A Yes, it is. 2 THE COURT: Did you have anything other than those 3 studies on which to base how much you believed Dr. Elahi was 4 spending on rent in Paris, food, and whatever else goes into 5 that equation, personal needs, fun, vacation, if he took a 6 vacation--I haven't heard that yet, but if he took a 7 vacation, savings, how much he put aside regularly for 8 savings or made contributions in? Did you have any of that 9 information? 10 THE WITNESS: No, not specifically, that's 11 correct. No, I did not. 12 THE COURT: Okay. 13 BY MR. MOOK: 14 Q Would it be correct the general assumptions or 15 general figures for an average that economists have come up 16 with? 17 A That's correct. 18 Q And you mentioned you had gone through this 19 procedure with respect to Dr. Elahi's work in the 20 humanitarian field. Did you do a similar type of 21 calculation had Dr. Elahi pursued a career as a college 22 professor? 23 A Yes, I did. 24 Q And is that reflected in your report? 25 A Yes, it is. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 191 1 Q And where is that reflected? 2 A Look on table four of five. 3 Q And in making the adjustments for Dr. Elahi, 4 assuming he had followed a career as a professor, the 5 adjustments in table four of five for personal consumption 6 is in column five? 7 A That's correct. 8 Q Did you also make any adjustments for taxes-- 9 A Right. 10 Q --in this area? 11 A Right. This would be an assumption he would be 12 working in the United States, so we made an adjustment for 13 Federal, state and local income taxes. 14 Q And by making that adjustment, that lowered his 15 net earnings? 16 A That's correct. 17 Q Okay. Now, in addition to lost income, did you 18 also take into account loss of fringe benefits of 19 employment? 20 A Yes, I did. 21 Q And how did that factor into your analysis? 22 A Well, that factored in analysis that it would be 23 registered as a separate source of either income and/or 24 savings that would have been available to Mr. Elahi or his 25 estate. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 192 1 Q Okay. And what is the basis that you used for 2 determining the amount of lost fringe benefits? 3 A Okay. There is a Federal study put together again 4 by the Bureau of Labor Statistics called the Employment Cost 5 Index, and what that study outlines is the average 6 percentages that individuals in various lines of work 7 normally receive as benefits associated with employment. 8 Q Okay. So, you used generally accepted data for 9 the percentage of fringe benefits for various levels of 10 income? 11 A That's correct. 12 Q Okay. Did you have any factual information as to 13 whether or not Mr. Elahi, in pursuing his humanitarian work 14 with the Flag of Freedom organization, had fringe benefits? 15 A It was my understanding that there were some 16 fringe benefits available related to insurance, time off, 17 vacation, and some modest retirement types of investments, 18 contributions available to him. 19 Q Okay. So, your calculations for both Mr. Elahi 20 pursuing a humanitarian career or pursuing a career as a 21 university professor, included the lost benefits? 22 A That's correct. 23 Q Is that correct? 24 A Yes. 25 Q Now, were there any adjustments made in your MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 193 1 calculations with respect to either your growth or discount 2 factors? 3 A Yes. 4 Q Maybe if you could explain to the Court why it may 5 be necessary to make such adjustments in the calculations. 6 A Okay. Some of the losses had Mr. Elahi been 7 alive, we assume, say, if we take, for example, the 8 humanitarian example of $44,000 a year, we assume that his 9 earnings would have kept up with inflation or cost-of-living 10 increases from 1990 through the year 2008 when he retired, 11 so that that would be the adjustment of taking into 12 consideration the increase in earnings over the course of 13 his remaining time in the labor market, so that the earnings 14 would increase from $48,000 on an annual basis up until he 15 retired at age 65. 16 Q Okay. And similarly-- 17 THE COURT: But increase to what? I mean, I'm 18 looking at the chart, and I may be reading it wrong, but 19 under uIEarningsr it looks like from it went from 1990 at 20 8,000 to 1991 consistently through 2008 at 48,000. Am I 21 missing something there? 22 THE WITNESS: It would be working over the column, 23 but column three assumes no growth in earnings. Then column 24 four is the adjustment for taxes. Column five is the 25 adjustment for personal consumption. And then column six MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 8 th Street, s.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 194 1 is--would, in essence, be the economic loss had no growth 2 taken place. And column seven combines two factors: The 3 growth rate and the discount rate all into one factor to 4 adjust the base figures to come up with what are referred to 5 as the present-value figure. 6 So, in column seven, the earnings grew from 1990, 7 since we are in 2000, to the year 2000, and then beyond the 8 year 2000. There are two factors that come into play. 9 There was a growth because it will continue to go up, but 10 also since these losses would take place in the future, we 11 would have to adjust them to what we call “present value.” 12 So, the percentages in column seven after 2000 combines both 13 the growth rate and the discount rate. 14 THE COURT: So, what would that mean that you 15 anticipated he would be earning in the year 2000--let's just 16 pick that year--which has the combined effect of growth and 17 discount factors, column seven as 130.50 percent? 18 THE WITNESS: I don't have what he would be 19 earning, the value economic loss would be. If you look in 20 column eight on the year 2000 line, it would be $27,499. 21 So, that 27,499 would be after taxes, after personal 22 consumption, and after growth. 23 THE COURT: All right. 24 THE WITNESS: Then, if you go down to the next 25 figure which is beyond the year 2000, that would be after MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 195 1 taxes, after consumption, after growth, and after discount. 2 So, the future numbers are reduced partially because of the 3 discounting or what we refer to as the present-value 4 factors. So, the numbers up until the year 2000 account for 5 the past losses, which include only the increases due to 6 cost of living, and the losses beyond 2000 include the 7 cost-of-living increases adjusted down for the present 8 value. 9 BY MR. MOOK: 10 Q And does your report reflect what range of growth 11 of percentage you used for these calculations? 12 A Yes, I did. Yes, it does. 13 Q And do you recall what that percentage is or where 14 it's reflected in your report? 15 A Okay. If you look on table one of six--I'm sorry, 16 table one of five, on line forty, that the growth rates 17 vary, depending on the year, depending on the estimates for 18 that period, the actual growth rates and the projected 19 growth rates, they vary between 1.3 and 4.1 percent. 20 Q Rather low inflation? 21 A Well, the earlier years 1990 and so forth, the 22 inflation rates would be around three to four percent. More 23 recently, the inflation rates have been lower. The projected 24 inflation rates over the long term based on the studies that 25 we have looked at would be in the three to four percent MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 196 I 1 range. 2 Q Okay. Now, Dr. Paige, you also mentioned in 3 addition to the growth rate, the discount rate. 4 A Yes. 5 Q Maybe if you could explain what the discount rate 6 is and why that is a factor. 7 A Sure. Some of the losses take place after the 8 year 2000. They take place into the future. So, if we, 9 say, hypothetically assume that Mr. Elahi would lose $40,000 10 five years from now, we would not want to award his estate 11 the $40,000. We would want to award the estate something 12 less than $40,000 because we would award an amount that, if 13 invested today, five years from now, the principal plus the 14 interest would be $40,000. So, that interest factor was 15 what we referred to as the discount rate, so the future 16 losses are taken and discounted such that if somebody is 17 awarded an amount today, the principal plus interest in the 18 future would equal the actual level of the loss that would 19 occur in the future years. 20 Q And Dr. Paige, does your report reflect what 21 discount rates were used? 22 A Yes. In table one of five, the discount rates are 23 listed on line 41. 24 Q Okay. And those discount rates, I think it's 5.67 25 percent to 5.98 percent. MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 197 1 A That's correct. 2 Q How did you arrive at those figures? 3 A Those are rates that we use on an investment with 4 which we referred to as the state and local government bond 5 rate. So, the basic assumption would be that the state and 6 local government bond rates would be an appropriate type of 7 investment for someone who would receive an award, if that 8 were the case. 9 Q And is that a discount rate that's generally used 10 in the economic profession in making analyses as to lost 11 income or benefits? 12 A Yes, it is. 13 Q Okay. And Dr. Paige, then, in summary, is it 14 true, then, that based upon your education and experience in 15 performing these types of calculations, that to a reasonable 16 degree of certainty had Dr. Elahi continued to pursue the 17 humanitarian profession, a career in the humanitarian 18 profession, the present value of the losses to his estate 19 would have totaled $725,359? 20 A That's correct. 21 Q And Dr. Paige, is it correct that, again based 22 upon your education and experience in performing these types 23 of analyses, that to a reasonable degree of certainty within 24 the economic profession, that had Dr. Elahi pursued a career 25 as a professor, the present value of the economic losses to MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 198 1 his estate would have totaled $967,626? 2 A That's correct. 3 Q Dr. Paige, your calculations merely reflect the 4 monetary losses to Dr. Elahi's family and estate; is that 5 correct? 6 A That's correct. 7 Q The analyses you have done does not incorporate at 8 all any of the emotional losses or the pain and suffering 9 that Dr. Elahi's heirs or relatives may have felt; is that 10 correct? 11 A That's correct. 12 MR. MOON: I have no further questions. 13 THE COURT: All right. Thank you, Doctor, for 14 your testimony. We appreciate it. 15 THE WITNESS: Thank you very much. Thank you for 16 your questions. 17 (Witness steps down.) 18 THE COURT: I think it might be appropriate to 19 stop at this time. We only have ten more minutes today, and 20 in any event we will pick it up tomorrow morning 9:30. 21 Tell me how we are doing progress-wise. I can 22 count the number of witnesses, but I don't know what they're 23 going to say. 24 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Dr. Elahi is about another half 25 hour to finish, and Dr. Clawson probably an hour. You have MILLER REPORTING COMPANY, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
dak 199 I 1 the background. Dr. Clawson has a different economic 2 viewpoint, as. an economist. And then Dr. Ganji will take a 3 little longer, probably a couple of hours, I think, because 4 you heard so much about him; he's central to this thing. He 5 lived with Dr. Elahi, not in the same apartment, but they 6 were day to day together for many years. 7 THE COURT: We will readily finish this tomorrow? 8 MR. HIRSCHKOP: Yes, Your Honor. If we get your 9 book, too, we will highlight it for tomorrow morning. 10 THE COURT: That's the second book, whichever. I 11 believe we gave you the earlier book. This is the later 12 book. Yes, you're welcome to it. 13 MR. HIRSCHKOP: We have a short videotape. It's a 14 videotape made by Dr. Ganji on the life of Dr. Elahi. 15 THE COURT: Fine. That would be very helpful. 16 Have a good evening. As far as your materials are 17 concerned, you're welcome to leave them. We never lost 18 anything yet; we never guarantee. And there is a closet 19 back there, if that's helpful to you. And I do have one 20 case preceding yours tomorrow morning at nine, but I don't 21 think they will be interested in your materials, as long as 22 they are off the counsel table. Otherwise, have a good 23 evening. 24 (Whereupon, at 4:20 p.m., the hearing was 25 adjourned until 9:30 a.m., the following day.) MILLER REPORTING coMpANy, INC. 735 8 th Street, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20003 (202) 546-6666
200 CERTIFICATE OF NOTARY PUBLIC I, DOLORES A. BYERS, CSR, the officer before whom the foregoing deposition was taken. do hereby testify that the witness whose testimony appears in the foregoing deposition was duly sworn by me; that the testimony of said witness was taken by me stenographically and thereafter reduced to typewriting under my direction; that said deposition is a true record of the testimony given by said witness; that: I am neither counsel for, related to, nor employed by any of the parties to the action in which this deposition was taken; and further, that I am not a relative or employee of any attorney or counsel employed by the parties hereto nor financially or otherwise interested in the outcome of the action. , 9,/ L DOLORES A. BYERS, CSR Notary Public in and for the District of Columbia My commission expires: December 14, 2001